hmmmm dude if im close enough to hit you with my right hand you better not be trying to slip then come with a kick..because when you slip my right my ****ing left hook is coming...and if your up on one foot trying to land a kick you are eating my hook hard.
to me world class means having the ability to be competetive against anyone in the world. and theres no doubt james could have done alot of things and im sure at some point he was a great athlete. but not the toney waddling around today.
atsch half of the posters on esb would smash him over 100m you need to get over this whole hero worship thing dude.
No they would not. Not even close to half. You need to get over this "he is fat, so he can’t do anything athletic" mindset. Having some fat doesn’t take away explosiveness, speed and endurance. Yeah those atributes would be better, if he was normal weight, but it isn’t the one thing that decides every athletic competition.
I didn’t say he would win race against high level runners. However I have seen fat athletic guys, be much faster than their weight indicates and winning race against thin guys. When the fat guy is professional athlete, I have no doubt he would win race against over half of this forums posters. I am overweight myself and in army I beat half/almost half of my battery’s recruits in cooper test, with 2700 meter result. I weighted then 135kg/297lbs. If I could run that result with 297lbs, I would imagine Toney in 230lbs doing much better than 2700 meters. Besides even 2700 meters was more than enough, to beat normal weight guys who didnt do much sports.
dude 3/4ths at least of the guys on esb dont work out at all...or if they do its beach body weightlifting.....very few are working out as much as even toney does...and most of them dont have his gentic ability.
so what your saying is because they dont work out they wouldnt smash him over 100 METRES??? ok dude you win, im wrong. james toney is a freakish athlete with incredible genetics and godlike athletic ability.
Why the **** would they smash him in 100 metres, if they dont train at all? Because Toney has little extra weight? atsch Of course the guy, who trains constantly, is going to be favorite against computer geek, who hasn’t train day in his life.
How the **** is it "*****" to not wanna roll around with some almost naked dudes? You're one of those guys that says, "If you don't get ****ed in the ass, you're a *****. I get ****ed in the ass everyday. If you don't do it, you got a weak ass."
So your cool with grappling as long as your as clothed as possible? Must be that I got ****ed in the ass by a wrestler in highschool thing coming back to haunt you.
dude why are you defending toney? we all know hed put up a fight in the hw if he got back into shape. the thread is titled " you vs james toney in a submission grappling match" n jimmie explained exactly why he would beat him. Its because james toney is fat, old, and has very little grappling exp. no need to defend him n say hes more of a natural athlete than all of us , he isnt. toney hasnt been the same since Jirov