You who are UNIMPRESSED by PETER

I'm somewhat impressed by Peter, he does have power and a great chin and showed he can go 12 rounds.But I'm not going to judge him by his victory over Toney, Oleg will be a good test to see if he's ready for Vitaly.....which I don't think he'll win anyway

 

This is really the most absurd thing that's been going on. I mean Maskaev was stopped by Kirk Johnson, Corey Sanders and Lance Whitaker - hardly a "murderers row" of punchers. And chins don't IMPROVE with age.

Peter isn't just gonna knock Oleg out, he's gonna knock him out COLD. And EARLY.

 

KO'ing a top 10 fighter definitely cements a fighter's reputation as a legitimate puncher. Consider that many mediocre boxers can rack up large KO streaks against bad opposition. There are many reasons for this--bad fighters sometimes just don't have the chins to compete at a higher level, or lack defensive skills. The same reasoning--to a lesser extent--is true when comparing fighters' wins against top opposition vs. journeyman opposition.

For instance, I do not consider Shavers' power equal to Tyson's, since the latter demolished far better opposition.



If/when Peter produces a brutal knockout of Maskaev, I will consider him in a better light than I do right now...not that I consider him a weak puncher as-is (he packs quite a wallop), but my opinion of his power will improve if he demolishes Maskaev.

 

I see Peter as a cheap version of David Tua.
Definitely has good power and a good chin but that is about it.
To be effective against Toney he had to take off so much power of his shots that it became a non factor.
Also he looked so painfully ordinary against Wlad....

If he beats Maskaev in a decisive manner i will start giving him props though but as of yet he is very very unproven.

 

Oleg isn't Jeremy Williams and he hasn't been KO'd since he changed his team, I can't believe soem people think peter will paste the ring with Oleg's organs. Peter is not that much better than Oleg

 

Peter has A level power with C level boxing ability. Big O will coast to a UD.

 

Scam Cheater doesn't know how to throw punches to the front of the head, hence he knocks C level opposition out with behind the head shots and the VERY occasional front of the head shot. Other than that, he has accomplished nothing that shitty Ruiz and Rahman already did. Beat a fat lazy steroid using loser named James Toney. Who else has Scam Cheater beat?

 

There is a first time for everything - Peter will KO a top 5 heavyweight on October 6th (mark my words)

 

peter beats oleg by UD

 

Wait 'till October 6th Guru:deal You will be forced to recant some of those statements

 

Peter is hyped up, no doubt. He is the HW version of Lacy. His power is overrated.

 

Oleg may not be Jeremy Williams, but he has Jeremy Williams' chin. Anybody that gets knocked out by a light-hitter like Kirk Johnson and medicore arm punchers like Whitaker and Sanders cannot, I repeat CANNOT stand up to a single good shot from Sam Peter.

And whatever people say about Peter's skills, he's not gonna go all fight without landing a single solid shot on Oleg's crystal whiskers. And one is ALL it will take.

 

Peter is still the biggest threat to Wlad right now...

 

We all know how sports fans, maybe fight fans even more, seem to dislike or hate certain athletes, and show irrational biases. I generally don't dislike but a few fighters. I happen to like Peter for what he is - an entertainer (what pro athletes basically are) who happens to be in the fight game. Same with Oleg. No doubt Peter is one of the harder punchers in the HWT ranks, and he has a solid jaw. But the guy is crude, and I don't think he's ever going to be graceful in the ring. He may improve, he may grab a belt, but the guy will never be anything close to a smooth fighter. :deal

The debates on the upcoming Maskaev-Peter fight have been interesting due to the wide range of views. For his age and previous KO losses, Oleg is to be credited for showing determination and obtaining a HWT champ belt. OM was badly rushed vs heavy hitters early in his career. He may not have a "glass" jaw, but he obviously doesn't have a Chuvalo type one either. Btw, it seems too many posters are quick to use the "glass jaw" tag on a fighter that suffers a few T/KO losses; and to a lesser extent "iron jaw" tag on guys that have avoided a stoppage loss - even before they have had many fights vs top comp. The truth is that most fighters have average or mediocre jaws. And among HWTs - who keep getting bigger - I think we may be getting to the point where punching power is exceeding punch/jaw resistance. Over the years there have been some good discussions on ESB re this topic.

I try not to over or underrate a fighter. Given Oleg’s late 30s age, so-so jaw, and SP big punch I have Peter as the favorite in their upcoming fight. But not the overwhelming fav. Oleg will have to survive the early rounds and frustrate Sam. But SP seems to carry his power late, and at OM's age he may tire just as much, get careless, and get stopped. If it goes to decision, it could be close. This is Peter big chance to KO a top 10 guy. If he fails to stop a late 30s version of OM, SP will drop more than a few spots in my rankings. I was also disappointed he did not stop Toney. JT has done very little at HWT.

Oh, Virchis vs Peter could be a blast - literally ! Valuev-Peter to a lesser extent. Neither fight would be a master piece of the sweet science :yep but they might be fun to watch.

 

PETER KO1 and yeah im betting the house on that!!!!!!!!!!!!