You'd think Joshua has defeated Wilder and Fury...

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The way some of these nuthuggers are going on around here.

    So Wilder signed to fight a prime Povetkin, Furyx3, undefeated "Boogeyman" Ortiz during his title run, but we are told to believe that he ducked Joshua (an equal or easier fight than the above) for 10x the money? Wilder had plenty of trash in his title defenses, but this is CLEARLY not a one way duck. Both fighters tried to gather the belts before a mega showdown and it blew up. Wilder got splattered and destroyed twice by Fury, completely losing his confidence. A rejuvenated Joe Parker decisions a now 38 year old Wilder and somehow this means that...Joshua would have beat him all along? What?

    The revisionist history on this previously 50-50 matchup is insane. The big name big money fighter didn't get a 50-50 fight done...FOR FIVE YEARS. Now that Wilder's washed the big name fighter "would've always beat him"? What happened to "the fight of the century"? Clowns.

    These sad souls are attempting to do the same with Fury. Despite Usyk looking the exact same against Fury, they claim Fury only did well because it was a lesser version of Usyk. As if only a perfectly prime version of Usyk could get in there and make Joshua look stupid. Fury had the best losing performance against Usyk point blank period. There were rounds where I legitimately thought Usyk would get stopped. Fury almost got TKO'd, yes, but I recall a certain fighter almost getting TKO'd in the 12th against Usyk (and his corner waving a towel, and the round ending early).

    The beautiful thing about boxing is that no one gives a **** about coulda woulda shoulda's. Joshua would've beaten everyone ever according to much of this forum. If only he didn't have to prove it in the ring. His one weak point. Be sure to ignore that he's 0-2 against the Big Four of this generation. I'm sure they will babble on about how Wallin is better than Fury, and Ngannou is as good a victory as Wilder. Ultimately these people are fans of a fighter, not a sport, and DKSAB.

    I know I saw the two best heavyweights of this generation have an epic fight last weekend, and I look forward to the rematch.
     
  2. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Clever matchmaking and recentism have worked wonders for Joshua's career since the Usyk fights. Wins over Ngannou and Wallin and suddenly I've seen people asking "who would win a Joshua V Usyk rematch".

    It's not even being discussed but I'd love to see Joshua V Parker again but this time do it properly.
     
  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I love the circular logic that Fury is trash because he fought Ngannou/Wallin, but AJ isn't because he looked good beating them. They're either a good opponent or not. You can't have both.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    AJ hasn't been mentioned in ages apart from as a potential fight for Fury.

    Your obsession with his is weird.
     
  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    The level of head in the sand thinking Wilder nut huggers have to embrace to convince themselves it was Joshua ducking Wilder and not Wilder happily being protected by uncle Al is hilarious.

    Joshua has the better resume hands down it's not even close.

    Joshua's team made repeated offers to Wilder, Wilder made one offer via email that Finkel refused to meet Hearn to dicusss. Wilder even agreed terms with Joshua but then failed to sign the contract and that's when the ludicrous 50/50 stance was taken to duck the fight.

    Wilder turned down the biggest guarantee purse ever to fight his mandatory and then Joshua in 2 fights. Instead he fought his mandatory for less money than DAZN were willing to pay him.

    Ortiz was never a bogeyman he was created as one to bolster the truly pathetic resume of the paper champion Wilder. In fact it's Ortiz who ducked Joshua by taking the Wilder fight and then again when he refused 7-8 million to dare step in the ring with Joshua, if anyone is the bogeyman it's Joshua the way Wilder and Ortiz ducked him.

    Fact is Wilder is this era's Bowe and will be remembered as ducking Joshua. Actually that's an insult to Bowe, Bowe at least had the balls to step in with Evander Holyfield, Wilder instead fought Stiverne for his title, lol.
     
  6. pugilista

    pugilista Member banned Full Member

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    Wasn't it a $100 million USD offer that Wilder refused and ducked Joshua with some bogus excuse?
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah 100 mill to fight Breazeale who he was fighting already and then 2 fights with Joshua. He made some BS excuse about loyalty to his team and I guess Showtime.

    He used that deal to sweeten his purse for the Breazeale fight which was smart but his stance basically meant he was never fighting Joshua or fighting for DAZN because he would only ever fight for PBC and Showtime. But what is he doing now, fighting on non PBC cards on DAZN. Where's the loyalty now for PBC?
     
  8. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua still got Joey twelve problems
    and unfinished grinning obese Mexican business
     
  9. DarrenO

    DarrenO New Member Full Member

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    Wilder is and always was, a very limited boxer with a very weak CV . Now that he's past it, he may have even lost a lot of that power shot he once possessed. AJ fought much better opposition except for Fury. Zhang should beat Wilder convincingly and retire Wilder for good.
     
  10. Fancy Footwork

    Fancy Footwork Member Full Member

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    "Boogeyman" Ortiz?

    What is this trash thread?
     
  11. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Remember guys:

    When Wilder lost to Parker and Zhang, he was still in his prime at 38 , which means he always sucked and Joshua would have beat him
    When Fury fought Usyk, Usyk was no longer in his prime at 37, which is why Fury performed better than Joshua
    When Fury beat Klitschko at 39, Klitschko was no longer in his prime. Klitschko then re-entered his prime at 41 and lost to Joshua
    When Joshua got splattered by Dubois at 34, his reflexes were "diminished" despite this being a prime HW age and Joshua not taking much punishment through his career
    If Fury loses to Usyk this December, he is still in his prime at 36 despite boxing for 30 years, weight gain, drugs, wars

    Also, everyone who Joshua didn't fight ducked him because they were afraid of a career high payday against a fighter with a known shaky chin and fear of taking shots. He would have beaten them all, and basically has, according to Joshua fans.

    There you have it. Ironclad logic.
     
  12. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Trying to revive your own crap threads is probably the third most pathetic thing that happens on this forum.

    #1 is the constant use of alts
    #2 is the constant starting of threads and obsession with a certain boxer who doesn’t even know you exist.

    @Slyk you cover at least two of these points consistently. As I say it’s absolutely pathetic.
     
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  13. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let’s not pretend that Joshua did not duck Wilder,both fighters admit ducking each other for there own reasons,so why can’t there fans just accept they both ducked each other ! I’ve posted the links numerous times but fans on both sides only see what they want to see .
     
  14. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Its pretty funny how psychofans trying to ignore all fact just to write history in his own way...

    You dont know that Wilder already confirm himself that he choose worse money fight with Fury and not take better deal from the table?

    If You trolls even dont belive Your own idol how we can talk?

    Maybe I try this delusional work too. I guess Im just dreaming and must post 2 new thread.

    1. Filip Hrgovic detsroyed Daniel Dubois in their fight.
    2. Joshua knockout Daniel Dubois in round 5.

    Dont have sense? For me same level as this stupid thread.
     
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  15. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Always thought both would beat him peak-for-peak. Fury’s just too clever, awkward and quick. Wilder is durable enough to stay there with AJ for an extended period of time and that gives him plenty of opportunities to land that nuclear right which I think is more likely than AJ clocking Deontay.