Young Pipino Cuevas destroys Angel Espada

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Cuevas was a horrific puncher.

    A very good operator is what is required to beat him on his best night. Because getting brushed by him was painful enough, let alone getting clobbered by him.

    A fighter with obvious deficiencies, and not a true ATG by any means, but what power.
     
  2. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Espada's biggest problem was his lack of real punching power. In the rematch with Cuavas, he had no trouble finding Cuevas with right hands, but couldn't stop Cuevas from coming in.
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Cuevas made him horizontal.
     
  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When the big left hook landed.....as they say in Deep East Texas:
    ...."That's all she wrote".
     
  5. ricardoparker93

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  6. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can see your point certainly but the fact of the matter is, Pipino rebounded to a frightening peak. So much so that Ray leonard himself, perhaps the second best welter ever, did not dare to step in the ring to face him.

    So many crushed challengers, so many broken bones, broken jaws, battered spirits. Batter the body and you batter the spirit. Ray leonard found that out in the Norris fight and while Cuevas didnt have the sheer breathtaking speed of TN, he did connect and opponents weren't laughing.

    His left hook was irresistable like the hammer of Thor. I am of the belief that if you have physical gifts like Cuevas or Jones you can be at a disadvantage skillwise and still batter your opponent into submission
     
  7. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I remember reading about this fight in the back pages of Sports Illustrated. I was shocked and stunned; I had never even heard of Cuevas. I found it all the more bizarre that Cuevas was only 18 years old. A year later, Cuevas did the same thing to tough veteran Clyde Gray. That's when I knew Cuevas was for real.
     
  8. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Concerning the YouTube link -- which is great -- it underscores my belief that Cuevas was an underrated boxer. He could do more than just punch: he feints, he moves, he slips punches, he jabs, and he's fast. Fascinating fighter.
     
  9. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course not, it would've distracted him from fighting superior opponents like Benitez and Duran. :deal
     
  10. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    In more recent years:

    Foreman-Moorer
    Hopkins-Tarver
     
  11. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

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    Always find an oppurtunity to diss Sugar Ray or talk up Norris eh!;)
     
  12. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whats this guys problem with leonard? We could be discussing quantum physics and he would somehow shoehorn leonard into it
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh no sir, no you have me all wrong. Leonard is my #8 ranked welter of all time. His victory over Thomas Hearns (The Hitman) was just tremendous, the saga of our lifetime and I'm sure that by 1981, leonard could have safely handled Cuevas. But not the Cuevas you see here; he simply cannot handle this kind of power.

    I also felt that the Norris-Leonard bout proved my point nicely. That is, batter the body and the spirit will die which was also evident in the showdown with Camacho coming out for round five. And we all know that Cuevas was even more unrelenting than Camacho
     
  14. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What made 1981 Cuevas so different from 1976 Cuevas? Why was Leonard the same in 1997 as he was in 1981?
     
  15. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oops... :D :yep