Your 2 Greatest of All Time

i for one refuse because we have these threads every single day

 

SUGAR RAY ROBINSON

Champion at 147 where he was virtually unbeatable and a 5 time champion at 160

Began career 131-1 and finished 173-19 with 108 KOs

He beat the likes of Armstrong, LaMotta, Gavilan, Graziano, Fullmer, Basilio, Turpin, Zivic, Olson, Angott, Fusari, Doyle, Castellani, and Walzack.

Great speed, great chin, great heart, great skill, great power - just the complete package. The amazing thing is that there is no footage of his prime at 147. People who saw him said he was that much better as a welterweight which is scarry considering how great he looked at 160 and even later into his career.

HARRY GREB
World Middleweight Champion and American Light Heavyweight Champion

Died with an unbelievable record of 259-21

The only man to beat Gene Tunney and defeated other great/excellent fighters such as Mickey Walker, Maxie Rosenbloom, Tommy Loughran, Mike Gibbons, Tommy Gibbons, Jack Blackburn, Tiger Flowers, Jack Dillon, Jimmy Slattery, Battling Levinsky, Mike McTigue, Leo Houck, Bill Brennan, Willie Meehan, Billy Miske, Soldier Bartfield, Johnny Wilson, and Gunboat Smith.

Historian Eric Jorgensen stated, “Greb may have been the greatest fighter, pound-for-pound, who ever lived. Certainly, he was among the top 2 or 3. He combined the speed of Ray Robinson, the durability of Jim Jeffries, the stamina of Henry Armstrong, and the unbridled ferocity of Stanley Ketchel with a will to win unsurpassed in the annals of sport. At his peak, he was unbeatable, defeating virtually every middleweight, light heavyweight and heavyweight of his generation. A great, great fighter.”

Honorable Mentions - Henry Armstrong, Willie Pep, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Roberto Duran, Benny Leonard, Sam Langford, Ezzard Charles, Joe Gans, Archie Moore, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tony Canzoneri, Jack Johnson, Barney Ross, Mickey Walker, Eder Jofe, Jimmy McLarnin, Marvin Hagler, Carlos Monzon, Pernell Whitaker, Roy Jones Jr, Jimmy Wilde, Rocky Marciano, Julio Cesar Chavez, Jack Dempsey, Stanley Ketchel, Jose Napoles, Barbados Joe Walcott, Emile Griffith, Bob Fitzsimmons, Bernard Hopkins, etc...

 

Robinson- The sheer amount of title defenses, atgreats beaten, fights, wins, and immense skill.

Armstrong- Holding 37.5% of ALL BOXING WORLD TITLES at one time is so incredible it blows my mind.

 

Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko.

My reason? because they are Klitschkos.

 

Felix Trinidad and Aaron Pryor.

Both kick ass and take names.

 

sugar rays!!!

 

Pacquaio because Floyd more popolar than De La Hoya.

 

greb

ali

 

Reggie Strickland
John Ruiz

 

I second that ^^^^ with Pep close behind the older gen. Duran behind the later gen.

 

ALI

SRL

(reasons why i got interested)

 

Really good point, I think everyone should take that into consideration, as the term 'greatest' is thrown alot and everyones definition is different, that's why we get so many different answers and half of them are right in their own accord. For me the greatest fighters to transcend boxing both inside and outside the ring is Muhammad Ali, though for second place it would be a close one between Jack Johnson, Tyson and DLH(just think about it)

reasons for Johnson was he broke a lot of racial boundaries paving way for black fighters
Tyson turned boxing mainstream and become an unprescendended celebrity and richest athlete ever
ODH apporached boxing as a business winning 6 weight divisions, big name celebrity and one of the most successful boxers ever(I love how takes on better fighters in Mosley and BHop, loses and takes them into his home i.e. GBP thus earning him more money lol just brilliant)

 

muhammad ali-for getting me into boxing(91-98)
ricky hatton-for getting me back into boxing when i didnt follow it(99-2000)
also for different reasons i was tempted to put tyson, gatti,hearns or benn