Your all-time best in each weight class

Washed up Morales and Barrera at 130 is a good achievement? Don't forget Old Morales beat Pac's ass up at 130.

 

OK yeah I spaced about it being JMM II.

JMM I was at feather.

But that just proves my point for me further. Even more people thought JMM won II than they do I.

 

Against lesser competition. If we go that route, let's crown Tyson as the greatest heavyweight of all time.

That was at 126.

Morales and Barrera were past their prime but still competitive. Barrera dropped Marquez and damn near beat him a few months prior to rematching Pacquiao.

Speaking of Marquez, it's funny how you left him out.

 

I left Marquez out because more than half felt he beat Pacquiao. Morales was competitive? he lost every round to Raheem the fight before Get off the pacquiao dick it doesnt work here

 

1. It's a combination of who you beat and the manner of the performance.

2. JMM I was at 126, but JMM II was at 130. And more people felt JMM deserved II than I, so that actually further emphasizes my point. And that JMM was further from his prime.

3. The Morales trilogy, including the loss, was at 130.

4. Yes but the Barrera win doesn't rate higher, or that much higher, than Manfredy or Chavez. It is not on the level of Genaro or Corrales, and nowhere close to being so.

5. Once again. Majority feel Marquez won.

Sorry but when you have 8 fights at a division, you lose one of them and by most accounts you lose two of them, than I really don't see how you can be the GOAT of that weight class when Arguello and Mayweathers' resumes are chilling there.

 

Heavyweight: Deontay Wilder
Cruiserweight: Denis Lebedev
Light Heavy: Bernard Hopkins
Super Middle: Andre Ward
Middleweight: Peter Quillin
Light Middle: James Kirkland
Welterweight: Andre Berto
Light Welter: Lucas Matthysse
Lightweight: Brandon Rios
Super Feather: Yuriokis Gamboa
Featherweight: Mikey Garcia
Super Bantam: Guillermo Rigondeaux

 

Agree with this.


haha

 

But I bet you give credit to Oscar for beating Sturm and winning a title in his 6th weightclass, even though most people thought he lost.

I'm sensing a lot of butthurt, probably because Pac beat the **** out of Oscar and made him quit. When cherry picking goes wrong.

Yes it's a combination but the quality of opposition weighs more heavily. Floyd didn't fight anybody at the weight who was anywhere near as great as Marquez, Morales or Barrera (even those versions). I mean you're comparing all time greats to guys who will be HOFers at best. Floyd is my current favorite fighter, he's one of the best ever P4P but there's no weightclass where you can say he was the greatest. Similar to SRL and Jones. They're H2H monsters though.

 

Off the top of the dome.

Heavyweight: Joe Louis
Cruiserweight: Evander Holyfield
Light Heavyweight: Bob Foster
Super Middleweight: Roy Jones Jr.
Middleweight: Marvin Hagler
Jr. Middleweight: Mike McCallum
Welterweight: Sugar Ray Robinson
Jr. Welterweight: Julio Cesar Chavez
Lightweight: Roberto Duran
Jr. Lightweight: Azumah Nelson
Featherweight: Salvador Sanchez
Jr. Featherweight: Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight: Ruben Olivares
Jr. Bantamweight: Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight: Jimmy Wilde
Jr Flyweight: Humberto "Chiquita" Gonzalez/Michael Carbajal
Strawweight: Ricardo Lopez

 

Find me a post where I give Oscar full credit for the Sturm win please

Here is a cherrypick gone wrong :

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