Your ATG top 25???

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Not in my book.

    After retirement they'll both be top 25
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    01 - Sam Langford
    02 - Harry Greb
    03 - Sugar Ray Robinson
    04 - Henry Armstrong
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    05 - Ezzard Charles
    06 - Bob Fitzsimmons
    07 - Muhammad Ali
    08 - Joe Gans
    09 - Joe Louis
    10 - Roberto Duran.
    11 - Benny Leonard
    12 - Mickey Walker
    13 - Willie Pep
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    14 - Barney Ross
    15 - Archie Moore
    16 - Ray Leonard
    17 - George Dixon
    18 - Terry McGovern
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    19 - Packey McFarland
    20 - Pernell Whitaker
    21 - Tony Canzoneri
    22 - Jimmy McLarnin
    23 - Sandy Saddler
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    24 - Floyd Mayweather
    25 - Stanley Ketchel
     
  3. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :nod very good list :good

    Dixon high for me but I had Walcott too high for me on my own list :lol:
     
  4. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For me, the top 4 you have isn't up for debate, only the order. :good
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Dixon's high rankings:

    George Dixon was a pioneer. As brilliant a technician as his era produced he was as much a pathfinder of boxing technique and style as Tommy Ryan or Nonpareil Jack Dempsey. Alas, the racism that ran rampant in much (but by no means all) of the sports-press of that time fetters even historians enlightened by these more reasoned times, and Dixon often doesn’t get the credit he deserves. His record, though, cannot be undermined by something as b**** as prejudice, nor his great talent.

    His prime lasted an astounding decade. Traveling to England to become the first black man to win a world title, he beat Nunc Wallace to claim the old-weight featherweight title, cementing that claim amidst tumultuous scenes against Johnny Murphy upon his return to America, overcoming a world-class opponent as well as multiple attempts at sabotage by a partisan crowd desperate to see the black man fail. He did not fail. The result was one of the greatest title runs in history that saw him box defense after defense of either the bantam or featherweight titles.

    Dixon made eight successful defenses and won numerous non-title fights before dropping a questionable decision to Frank Erne. He immediately recaptured his title and avenged himself upon Erne before dropping a legitimate decision to Solly Smith (whom he had previously beaten by knockout). By this point he had been the best fighter in the world for a number of years, but was about to be usurped by the coming Joe Gans. Nevertheless, he reclaimed his title, then receiving a questionable decision of his own, over Oscar Gardner, his decline seemingly deepening but Dixon, as always, surprised, adding an additional eight title defenses until Terry McGovern chopped him down in 1900. He boxed on for another six years, but wins were few and far between. Having lost four in ten years, he would lose eleven in just two, going 1-10-11 in what heralded the saddest decline of one of boxing’s greatest trailblazers and warriors.
     
  6. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great stuff :good I have him just outside the top 30 but to each his own! :thumbsup
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    There are dozens of truly great fighters, splitting them is hard, really hard.

    I take the easy way out and judge h2h.
     
  8. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So your top 25 is all HWs? :hey
     
  9. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I'll see if I can work my way towards a 25 - for now I'll go with a top 15.

    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Sam Langford
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Harry Greb
    5. Ezzard Charles
    6. Roberto Duran
    7. Willie Pep
    8. Muhammad Ali
    9. Benny Leonard
    10. Mickey Walker
    11. Archie Moore
    12. Bob Fitzsimmons
    13. Joe Gans
    14. Ray Leonard
    15. Pernell Whitaker

    I may have Whitaker a little too high and I could rank SRL anywhere from 13-20 though.
     
  10. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good list :good
     
  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Come on MVC, Hans, Dublyn, CST, IB, Rummy. I'm waiting on you boys :bart