your choice on the Best Heavyweight vs entire Heavyweight division history

Lewis' skills, size, reach and athleticism would dominate any era. LOL tiny ass Dempsey would get crushed, same as Baer. Foreman is too crude and unskilled and Bowe....well we know what happened there lol.

Nobody is beating Lewis outside of a fluke KO if lewis is not taking his opponent seriously. Only guys that can possibly outbox him imo are Ali and Holmes. Both are 50/50 fights imo. Douglas was an average fighter that caught lightning in a bottle for one night. Holyfield couldn't hang with Bowe and Moorer? He beat both and if he wasn't sick he would have beaten both twice.

My second pick after lewis would be Wlad Klitschko 2012-present version.

 

Funny, he has a lot in common with the man you mentioned above

 

Klitschko is better than Liston. Liston was a sloppy fighter with little technique and his pushing forward jab is overrated. Vitali would beat him to a bloody pulp just like he did to arreola

 

I doubt it. not ater watching both Rahman and McCall flatten him

Dempsey would lay him flat and retire him. ome say Dempsy's fists felt like a block of concrete and would hit Lennox so hard his kinfolk back in Africa would feel it

Baer when he was on fire, would take charge and destroy Lewis

as for Bowe? tell me what happened with Bowe. He went 40-1 last time I looked, took Holy apart and knocked him out to end the rivalry

the man had both size AND stamina. Evander was more an artificial blown up heavyweight who couldnt successfully defend against rising heavies and lost to each - Bowe, Moorer, Lewis

 

Both those fights were flukes, he was out of shape and not taking Rahman seriously and in the rematch he destroyed him. The Mccall fight was NOT A REAL KNOCKOUT Lewis beat the count but the wbc ref made a terrible decision to stop it. It was speculated that Don King had a hand in it because Mccall was his fighter.

When one fluke knockout and a robbery that were avenged in dominant fashion are the only ways you can criticize Lewis than it just shows there what class the man was at. Lewis would massacre Dempsey...He was too small and crude, no way Dempsey gets away from Lewis' jab or uppercut. I've watched many many of Dempsey's fights on film..the guy was a barbarian with little technique. He was in a heap of trouble with a bar level slugger like Firpo. When he fought a skilled technician in the form of Gene Tunny he was exposed as nothing more than an unsophisticated street brawler.

My point on Holyfield stands..he beat both Bowe and Moorer and if he was healthy he would have finished bowe in their third fight (he had him going in the 6th but had no more energy to fight from hep A), Moorer got a narrow split decision against a holyfield with a heart problems and injured shoulder. In the rematch he destroyed Moorer with 5 knockdowns.

Lewis knocked Bowe out in the Olympics to win Gold. In the pros "Chicken Bowe" did everything possible to avoid Lewis. He threw his WBC belt in the garbage just so he didn't have to fight Lewis..he was scared. Bowe got destroyed twice against Golota..Lewis Destroyed Golota within half a round. Tyson paid Lewis 10 mil in step aside money so he didn't have to fight him in 1996 when he was the N.1 contender for the WBC belt.

Lewis beat everybody in his era. He fought all top contenders instead of champions like Bowe who selected overmatched opposition. He avenged his losses. He even defied all boxing history and logic by beating the dominant champion of the next generation in Vitali Klitschko and retiring on top.

He also had a good chin. He couldn't beat the murderers' row of punchers he did in the 90's and early 2000's without one...

I think you are critically underestimating Lennox Lewis. :bbb

 

i like lewis ability to outbox a tough opponent as well get agressive vs the bigger men, he adapted really well, and one thing he did have over ali is 1 punch ko power.

 

Lennox Lewis

 

Glad someone here has a brain LOL :good

Dempsey wouldn't last 2 minutes with the "pugilist specialist"

Wlad would beat Joe Louis to a bloody pulp and make him quit on his stool by the 5th round

 

The thing that pisses me off are ppl trying to say Louis is better than Wlad when he clearly is not. They try and act like Wlad's comp is inferior which it is not (Povetkin and Peter are better than anybody Louis faced). Wlad would decimate everybody that Louis fought. His record is now better and after he destroys Pulev, Stiverne and Wilder and a few others he will surpass Louis record for title defences.
Louis got outboxed and knocked out by Schemling, beat up by 165 pound Conn and Physically manhandled by 180 pound Marciano. It would be easy work for Wlad

 

or in trouble against the fearsome Tony "two ton" Galento or the terrifying Buddy Baer

I've come to the conclusion that the reason people don't like Wlad is because of an American bias. If he were American everybody stateside would be saying he is the GOAT. Ppl **** on him for clinching but overlook that is the exact same thing Ali did in all of his fights. Ali clinched his opponents whenever they got inside his reach.

The same bias goes for Lewis

 

#1 Joe Louis

Beat Big men, short men, Heavy men, quick men,Great boxers,Great punchers,all colors shapes and sizes


# 2 Ali had trouble with the shorter guys 5'11 Joe Frazier,Doug Jones and 5"10 Bonavena

# 3 Lennox Lewis had the size and power but never Ko'd a man after the 8th and got KO'd 2x cold

 

Great of you to mention Steward. Without a doubt the best trainer of alltime. I recently read a top 10 ranking of greatest trainers and the author put D'mato in 1st place and Steward in 6th . Even their trainer was underrated. Btw Steward said that Lewis was a better at translated what he learned in the gym to a fight but Wlad was more talented.

 

and 170 pound Sonny Banks and 180 pound Henry Cooper had Ali's eyes in orbit . Dundee had to cheat and cut Ali's gloves and give him smelling salts (illegal at the time) to give him time to recover. If he didn't do that Ali would have been knocked out.

Clinching is an ingenious strategy for a big fighter like Ali or Wlad. It basically gives the opponent no way of landing punches. When they are outside they are getting lit up and even if they managed to slip the jab they get clinched. Rinse, repeat, win.

Americans are mad about the Povetkin fight but that was basically carbon copy of 90% of Ali's fights