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Serge · Sep 3, 2023

Olu G. Rotimi said: ↑

I knew Loma would lose to Teofimo because he was wrong for him. It’s not about lack of respect but fighter attributes and I was right. As for Haney he was fighting him at what I would say was the wrong time for him and better time for Haney. Lots of intangibles in that match up so not easy at all to predict because though naturally bigger Haney has been struggling at the weight. I have already shared with you my thoughts on neutral judges and referees and great fighters don’t use them as excuses rather they overcome them. It may not be fair but you know what, the world is not fair. The reason foreigners end up fighting in the USA is for economic reasons. African fighters not just Eastern Europeans end up fighting there and it’s not a level playing field so best to get on with it. Loma was not turning down the American dollars.
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Stop the cap. You picked Rigo to beat Loma too and Twink, Shakur, and Haney and I'm sure you do the same for tons of hypothetical match ups too. I've seen you do so a bunch of times

I said a same size Loma vs Haney so obviously that was a hypothetical match up. I managed to eventually get you to concede that you would probably lean towards Loma but you were extremely reluctant to do so. A same size Loma gets arrested for legal homicide against Haney. Even just a 2 division lighter one knocks his ass out.

Just admit I'm right, Olu. There's no reason why American fighters who are the least likely to travel as it is should have a home ref and three home judges for world title fights against foreigners over there when that literally never happens when they travel overseas for world title fights. Yes it affects all foreigners fighting over there and it's extremely unfair.

All you have to say is ''You know what, Serge, you make a very valid point there and I do agree with you regarding it being wrong and hopefully something is done to rectify that to make things a little more fair and even'' but you can't even do that

ILikeBoxingForRealz · Sep 3, 2023

1. Crawford
2. Inoue
3. Usyk
4. Davis
5. Bivol
6. Álvarez
7. Haney
8. Stevenson
9. Fury
10. Spence

CooperKupp · Sep 3, 2023

1)Usyk (Been beating the **** outta guys way bigger for years now in spectacular fashion)
2) Inoue
3)Loma (He deserved to win those belts)
4) Bivol (He whooped the guy who most had #1 for years)
5) crawford
6) Beterbiev
7) Canelo
8) David Benavidez
9) Tyson Fury
10) Tim Tszyu

BVA · Sep 3, 2023

1 Usyk
2 Inoue
3 Crawford
4 Beterbiev
5 Bivol
6 Lomachenko
7 Fury
8 Alvarez
9 Lopez
10 Navarette

Daggerz · Sep 3, 2023

1. Oleksandr Usyk
2. Terence Crawford
3. Naoya Inoue
4. Vasily Lomachenko
5. Tyson Fury
6. Dmitry Bivol
7. Artur Beterbiev
8. Juan Francisco Estrada
9. Canelo Alvarez
10. Gervonta Davis

Daggerz · Sep 3, 2023

Olu G. Rotimi said: ↑

African fighters not just Eastern Europeans end up fighting there and it’s not a level playing field so best to get on with it. .
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difference is EE fighters constantly are producing P4P talent and are involved in huge, high profile, important fights in the USA, (such as GGG-Alvarez, Kovalev-Ward, Loma-Haney), whereas African fighters simply aren't on that level. You can't compare fights which determine the P4P number 1 or becoming undisputed champ with all 4 world titles, to some African fighters in fights no one cares about.

MrPook · Sep 3, 2023

1. Crawford
2. Inoue
3. Fury
4. Usyk
5. Alvarez
6. Haney
7. Beterbiev
8. Davis
9. Stevenson
10. Lomachenko

Manfred · Sep 3, 2023

BubblesUK said: ↑

P4P lists are a great test to smoke out casuals... Anyone who puts a hypejob with a third rate resume on there at all (and especially if near the top) just outs themselves.

Yes, I'm talking about Davis.
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It also smokes out dummies.

African Cobra · Sep 4, 2023

Serge said: ↑

Stop the cap. You picked Rigo to beat Loma too and Twink, Shakur, and Haney and I'm sure you do the same for tons of hypothetical match ups too. I've seen you do so a bunch of times

I said a same size Loma vs Haney so obviously that was a hypothetical match up. I managed to eventually get you to concede that you would probably lean towards Loma but you were extremely reluctant to do so. A same size Loma gets arrested for legal homicide against Haney. Even just a 2 division lighter one knocks his ass out.

Just admit I'm right, Olu. There's no reason why American fighters who are the least likely to travel as it is should have a home ref and three home judges for world title fights against foreigners over there when that literally never happens when they travel overseas for world title fights. Yes it affects all foreigners fighting over there and it's extremely unfair.

All you have to say is ''You know what, Serge, you make a very valid point there and I do agree with you regarding it being wrong and hopefully something is done to rectify that to make things a little more fair and even'' but you can't even do that
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Unlike you I live in the real world and know the score. Loma beat Rigo sure it was a great victory over the smaller great fighter and both Teo and Haney beat Loma and most likely Shakur would as well and you and I both know Tank would knock him out senseless. There is more than enough data on Loma. As for the neutrality in officials I have already said it is what it is so we foreigners have to just overcome it.

McGrain · Sep 4, 2023

01 - Terence Crawford
02 – Naoya Inoue
03 – Oleksander Usyk
04 – Juan Francisco Estrada
05 – Dmitry Bivol
06 – Tyson Fury
07 – Saul Alvarez
08 – Artur Beterbiev
09 – Teofimo Lopez
10 – Shakur Stevenson

African Cobra · Sep 4, 2023

Daggerz said: ↑

difference is EE fighters constantly are producing P4P talent and are involved in huge, high profile, important fights in the USA, (such as GGG-Alvarez, Kovalev-Ward, Loma-Haney), whereas African fighters simply aren't on that level. You can't compare fights which determine the P4P number 1 or becoming undisputed champ with all 4 world titles, to some African fighters in fights no one cares about.
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You might not care but others do in the same some may care less about EE fighters.

BubblesUK · Sep 4, 2023

Olu G. Rotimi said: ↑

you and I both know Tank would knock him out senseless
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Remind me again, how many fighters has Tank actually fought on Lomas level?

Oh right, that'd be none... So no, we know nothing of the sort, do we?

11player · Sep 4, 2023

1 Crawford
2 Inoue
3 Usyk
4 Bivol
5 Canelo
6 Haney
7 Jermell Charlo
8 Teofimo Lopez
9 Lomachenko
10 Beterbiev

Hazaroth · Oct 15, 2024

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Beterbiev
4. Bivol
5. Canelo
6. Crawford
7. Tank
8. Lopez
9. Opetaia
10. Stevenson

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