Your favorite Classic Mayweather myths

my favorite myth: That Castillo whupped him in the first fight.....

even if you're one of those who gave the fight to castillo it was a one round fight and there's no way you can give him more than 7 rounds which in no way consitutes a whupping which many on here have dubbed it(I had 7rds to 5 for Mayweather but whatever)

 

What did Floyd do after a controversial win? Rematch the guy immediately to avoid any future controversy.

Not run away like a cowardly ***** like Manny and Marquez

 

Hatton was 157 in ring versus Kosta Tszyu. That's 2 pounds heavier than Cotto was against Pacquiao.

Hatton was a natural 140 fighter in regards that he got to have a 12 pound weight advantage in fights, rather than just a 7-8

He was at least 8-9 pounds heavier than floyd in ring

 

Floyd ducked Margarito in the same way Manny ducked say Tim Bradley or Paul Williams. Or Mosely.

Manny turned down all of those fights, for big money, to take on easier people.

Margarito was deemed an average fight for Floyd, not worth bothering about.

Manny's side stepped tons of these since he became PFP number 1

 

So a boxer neglects the jab, and the other boxer gets full credit...even if it is the boxers decision not to jab? Part of the credit goes to Mayweather.

Maybe because Mayweather keeps himself in shape all year round, and Hatton doesn't take care of his body?

Well if you're talking about weight...take a guy who is 5'6, weighs 220lbs...put him against a guy who is 6'2, weighs 175lbs, is the smaller guy naturally bigger?

That's why I said, 'Lets say'...I not once stated it was a fact.

Hatton comes in around 152lbs, does that mean he can use his strength and physically bully guys up at 154lbs? I mean, afterall...he spent his whole career at 140lbs.

Or when he balloons up in weight to 160lbs or so...would he be able to out muscle guys at Middleweight, etc? No.

 

The thing is, most of the stupid treatment Floyd got happens to most PFP number 1s. Manny is starting to get the same now.

Has Manny fought better opponents since he became PFP number 1, than Floyd did? No

Has Manny refused to face the best, and taken the safer, money/name fights instead? Probably

Has Manny ducked guys calling him out like Mosely, Bradley, Williams, Martinez, as he probably doesn't fancy taking loseable fights for $ million? Probably.

For ever Margarito there is for Mayweather, you can just say a Mosely, Williams, Bradley, Martinez for Pacquiao now.

Manny's faced nothing but big money medicrity since he became the "man".

 

Sorry, there's just no argument for Hatton at all. Other than just petty fan rivalry.

To explain:

Hatton was 157 in ring versus Tszyu at 140. That's heavier than Cotto was in ring versus Pacquiao at Welter.

He was always a welterweight just boiling down to 140 for an advantage. Didn't make a different where he fought - he was always 157-158 in ring.

Floyd was 147 in ring for Hatton and 149 in ring versus Mosely. And only 150 in ring versus De la Hoya. Even at junior middle, he was still 7 pounds lighter than Hatton at 140, in ring.

Hatton was offered the fight at 140. He wanted to fight at 147 instead, as he didn't want to put his belts or junior welter reputation on the line.

He had nothing to lose at 147. Floyd would be lighter in ring than most of his 140 opponents, and he still had his junior welter belts to fall back on when he was whupped.

The Hatton/Mayweather fight was one of these bouts where it didn't really matter where they fought.

Why? Hatton would be 157 in ring no matter which division he fought at.

Floyd would be 14-149 in ring no matter where he fought

 

Lot of myths about Floyd's size by the way.

Against Oscar, Mayweather wasn't able to get up to 154. He weighed in at 150. Fight night, in ring he was officially 150. Exactly the same. HBO claims he was actually 149 on their scales. Oscar was 167....................

Against Mosely, Floyd tried very very hard to bulk up to around 153 as he knew Shane would be very heavy and very powerful. He was eating 7 meals a day to try and put on the weight and power.

He wasn't able to. He only got up to 149 by the night of the fight.

Floyd's plain small. Like Pacquiao. Aint nothing to do with staying in shape.

 

Funniest thing about the Mosely fight is how paclanders just shift their position on the guy as soon as he's lost. These are genuine quotes on the situation by the worst paclander on another site I go on.

"If Manny signs for Mosely after his Cotto win and beats him, he can genuinely be considered a top 5 all time great".

"Floyd needs to sign with Mosely, and not the stupid Malignaggi fights people are talking about. He ducks elite welterweights for the same reason he ducks Pacquiao. He thinks he could lose".

"Mosely vs. Mayweather is the second biggest fight in boxing".

"Mosely is probably a tougher fight for Mayweathe than Pacquiao would even be. Why he won't stand up to the challenge".

Then he signed for the fight.........................This was his next post

"5 reasons why Mosely can't beat Mayweather"

and

"Although I've talked up the fight, by closer inspection, I'm not sure it's going to be as tough a fight as I first though"

 

You really struggle to tell the difference between examples, opinions and facts don't you?

Look back to my earlier posts, I already stated that Mayweather was a blown up Light Middleweight.

Another example...and it does apply. You believe someone is naturally bigger if they weigh more, which is bollocks.

I never mentioned Mayweather...but you seem to believe Hatton's most successful points throughout his career which were his strength, physicality, and his ability to bully his opponents wouldn't become less effective as he moves up in weight.

 

I think they probably know the facts. Just fan rivalry. Makes you say stupid things for the sake of it.

As in, Pacquiao was 146 in ring versus Marquez. Floyd was 148 in ring versus Marquez.

Marquez was 137 in ring with Pacquiao

Marquez was 142 in ring with Juan Diaz

Marquez was 144 in ring with Mayweather.



He put on basically 2 pounds to face Floyd.

 

"never mentioned Mayweather...but you seem to believe Hatton's most successful points throughout his career which were his strength, physicality, and his ability to bully his opponents wouldn't become less effective as he moves up in weight."

Floyd was lighter than Kosta Tyszu, in ring, against Hatton.

It's a valid argument if Floyd was a 160 in ring welterweight.

Just aint, for the fight in question though.

Pacquiao was 146 in ring versus Marquez. Floyd was 147 in ring versus Hatton.

If Hatton fought a super featherweight Pacquiao at 140, would you be arguing that Hatton had lost his physical advantages?

 

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I think Hatton's story is a pretty simple one. He was extremely limited.

At 140 he relied on his ability to dry out and cut down to make weight and then pile loads back on for fight night. This meant he was able to over power and over strength opponents rather than use boxing skills. He struggled at 147 for two reasons:

1) He came up against a bigger fighter who he didn't have that strength advantage over (Collazo). So in theory he could blame the weight, but all that does is highlight how his lack of skills made him reliant on having the weight advantage over his opponents.

2) He came up against a far superior fighter who was two good to be bullied and out wrestled (Mayweather).