Your favorite Journeyman

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Do you remember the guys name who he fought at least ?
     
  2. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Honestly, no my friend. It may come to me at some point and if so, I'll let you know. I remember he didn't amount to too much in the end.
     
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  3. The Fighting Yoda

    The Fighting Yoda Active Member Full Member

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    Willi Besmanoff (51–34–8, 19 Kos)
    He fought against young Muhammad Ali, Sonny Liston, Archie Moore, Yvon Durelle, Bob Foster, George Chuvalo (3times), Zora Folley, Eddie Machen, Willie Pastrano, Bob Baker, Roy Harris, Tom McNeeley, Pete Rademacher, Bob Cleroux, Mike DeJohn (2times), Alex Miteff (2times), Marty Marshall…
    He arguably would have a lot of interesting stories to tell.
     
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  4. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There were a lot matchups love or the on USA Tuesday Night Fights in the early 90s
     
  5. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess this depends very much on your concept of a journeyman. There are some excellent Fighters on here that I would never class as," Have gumshield, will travel" types who occasionally gave the house favourite a scare.
    I can think of many in the UK. Doncaster's Dean Bramhald took British Super Featherweight Champion, John Doherty, the full ten as a very late sub. He'd bought a ticket for the show and, as ever, had his kit in his car !
    Cardiff's Billy Waith was a superbly skilled Boxer. He had ninety odd fights, half of them top of the bill and fought in two final eliminators for British Titles.
    Waith invested in property, sent his daughter to an exclusive private school and is now a very wealthy man.
    You really can't say journeyman, here in the UK anyway, without mentioning Peter "The Professor" Buckley. A really loved and respected character from Birmingham who had 300 fights.
    I can't type his record and stories here, there isn't room, time or patience. If you haven't heard of him, Google Peter Buckley.
    There are dozens more I can think of. Seamus Casey, Jimmy Vincent and Willie Wright just local to me.
     
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  6. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where are you from Mac and when was this ? There are many such instances but, (This is a wild stab in the dark), this reminds me of Don Aagesson v Alec Kirby for the Midland Featherweight Title.
    Both lads were actually Glaswegians who had re-settled, Alec in Corby and Don in Birmingham. There was a lot of pride involved.
     
  7. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dan wofford, chauncy welliver, jan hrebik.
     
  8. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and of course "poochie" lewis van poetch.
     
  9. Boxed Ears

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  10. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone remember Joe Hipp?
     
  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I appreciate the term Journeyman (or men) is an abstract concept in boxing, but most of those listed so far are to my mind fringe contenders rather than Journeymen.


    For me, my era and geography produced two I always kept an eye out for: Peter Buckley and Miguel Matthews.
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    I think "journeyman" covers the whole range of boxers who are below real contender level but above the bottom rung stiffs who fall over from a slight breeze.

    A "prospect" is exempt from being a journeyman but could evolve into one.
     
  13. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He was no journeyman .. he was a terrific fighter ..
     
  14. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Chauncey Welliver is currently a promoter and matchmaker. Someone I know fought on one of his shows last weekend.
     
  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I cannot forget Ray Windmill White, he is my favorite.