Your feelings on Haye backing out against Vitali for Valuev

The Klitschkos have never beaten a dangerous fighter? So Haye, who has two fights at HW and had two title fights at cruiser is more dangerous than all the career HW's the Klitschkos faced?

Hayed has proven **** so far. Watch his fights, not just some youtube highlights, and see how he is standing in front of smaller opponents, going life and death with a chump like Fragomeni and tell me why he is dangerous to 6'7 fighters with power?

 

maybe if you watched him against 6'6 fighters with power like Gurov you will see he doesn't stand in front of them and trade.... He clearly didn't see Fragomeni as a threat so didn't fight cautiously same as he did with Barrett.

 

So now Wlad is responsible for Setanta and for Haye's subsequent lying about the real reason he pulled out?

Why don't you blame Haye for the lack of foresight on his part? IT IS NOT WLAD'S ****ING JOB TO WORRY ABOUT HAYE'S FINANCIAL FUTURE!!!!!!!!!
Have you heard other Klitschko opponents complain about contracts? No.
Has Haye backed out of other fights because he complained about the contract. Yes. Why do you think the guy has only 23 fights at age 28?

Besides. Haye said Wlad would be his easiest fight. Why didn't he back it up, because as the conquerer of Wlad, he would make gigantic money so one fight without getting paid would be worth it from a business standpoint.

 

So now Gurov is on par with the Klitschkos???

 

****... if brain cells were dinamite you wouldn't have enough to blow your hat off.

I didn't say Wlad made Setanta go bust did i dip****... i said Wlad was greedy and that was the only money Haye was getting so when they went bust Haye was getting nothing. Had Wlad not been so greedy and offered Haye maybe 20% of all proceeds Haye would still have had an income to pay his bills and wouldn't have pulled out?! Got it yet?

You haven't heard other Wlad opponents complain about contracts because they are usually mandatory's and Wlad doesn't put 2 rematch clauses and ridiculous financial clauses in their contracts! And no Haye hasn't pulled out of contracts with other people... he has only had 23 fights because he refuses to fight tin cans and turned pro quite late.... stop talking out of your arse lad... your lack of knowledge is disturbing

 

What the **** are you going on about... you made reference to how Haye stands toe to toe with smaller guys and how is he going to do that against someone at 6'7 with power... i pointed out that he fought much more cautious when he fought a 6'6 powerful puncher and you try twisting my argument.... **** off ****** :hi:

 

imo its hayes fault.

didnt he say hed fight the klitschkos for free one time? obviously im not saying he should, but he has been talking all this **** for some time now, youd think from all the things hes said hed be itching to fight one of these guys.

its pretty clear to me (well, its always been pretty clear really) that haye is nothing but talk. if he really wants to fight these guys so bad, he wouldnt be bitching about a less favorable contract.

 

Haye made a rational decision - probably the one he should have made at first, before all his ridiculous shittalking. This is a winable fight - Valuev likely doesn't hit hard enough to expose Haye's glass jaw, and in any event he doesn't hit as hard as the Klitschkos.

This way, Haye can get his shot at one of the Klits for even bigger money. He will almost certainly get starched early, but the paycheck will be more than worth it.

 

apparently, it goes like this. anyone not british or a hayelord votes that haye is backing out like a little *****, while anyone british and/or a hayelord votes that he didn't want to sign a "slave fighter's" contract and vitali and wlad are "unfair".

imo, haye never deserved to fight either of the klitschkos for a belt in the first place. he hasn't done **** to gain that kind of a chance, yet he got the chance anyways. guess what, he blew it both times. to me, if he wanted everything to be in his favor, he should have at least worked his way up through the heavyweight ranks and gained some respect before taking on the big boys. OF COURSE if you win one fight at heavyweight and then bad mouth the **** out of the top two in the division they're gonna want things their way. TOUGH ****. i'm getting tired of haye's whining. its pathetic.

 

Wladimir Klitschko:

“During the negotiations for my June fight, we realized quickly that Haye and Booth are very unprofessional. Booth might be a good trainer but as a manager he is simply incompetent. David always had a big mouth and tried to offend us with ridiculous self-made t-shirts. But when it comes up to step into the ring and show what he’s got, he runs away. He even admits that fighting Valuev is the easier way. For me Haye is a little, inexperienced kid who is afraid of his own courage. Doubtless, my brother would have knocked him out within the first four rounds.”

That says it all right there.

 

very wise move

 

Haye is a cheating ******* for going back and fourth with this, if he wanted something other than was being offered, why not just say so and go in another direction? Yes, the terms were kind of unfair, but he had many options and in the end he wasted too much time of too many people.

He was incredibly lucky to get the Valuev fight, a much better chance to grab a meaningfull belt and then land an unification fight on even terms.

Only that, at the date of the fight he will be a year away from the ring and that rust might come into play during the fight.

 

:rofl this coming from the guy who had to get his older brother to get the nasty Saunders.

They also have short memories.... I remember Vitali pulling out of fights quite frequently because of injuries.

And he has somehow made a deal with Don King in days, to fight Valuev....so he can't be that bad to deal with....because I'm sure Don doesn't take much ****