Your Flyweight Top 5 Ranking

UPCOMING FLYWEIGHT FIGHTS (or fights by relevant Flyweight fighters at other weights):
12/6: Juan Francisco Estrada, 30-2 vs. Joebert Alvarez, 14-0-1
12/6: Brian Viloria, 34-4 vs. Armando Vazquez, 21-11
12/19: Juan Carlos Reveco, 34-1 vs. Vor Saengthep, 34-2, for Reveco's second tier WBA title
12/30: Akira Yaegashi, 20-4 vs. Pedro Guevara, 23-1-1, for vacant WBC 108 title
12/31: Kazuto Ioka, 15-1 vs. Jean Piero Perez, 20-7-1
3/8/15: Amnat Ruenroeng, 14-0 vs. Zou Shiming, 6-0, for Ruenroeng's IBF title

RECENT FLYWEIGHT RESULTS (or results of fights by relevant Flyweight fighters at other weights):
10/25: Kevin Satchell MD12 Valery Yanchy, for Yanchy's European title
10/26: Moruti Mthalane UD12 Odilan Zaleta, for Mthalane's IBO title
11/8: Edgar Sosa UD10 Carlos Melo
11/22: Roman Gonzalez TKO6 Rocky Fuentes, for Gonzalez's Lineal/WBC title defense
11/22: Zou Shiming UD12 Kwanpichit Onesongchaigym
11/26: Koki Eto KO10 Chris Paulino, in Eto's OPBF title defense

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Transnational Boxing Rankings for Flyweight Division
L. Roman Gonzalez, 41-0
1. Juan Francisco Estrada, 30-2
2. Akira Yaegashi, 20-4
3. Amnat Ruenroeng, 14-0
4. Moruti Mthalane, 31-2
5. Brian Viloria, 34-4
6. Edgar Sosa, 51-8
7. Juan Carlos Reveco, 34-1
8. Giovani Segura, 32-4-1
9. McWilliams Arroyo, 15-2
10. Yodmongkol Vor Saengthep, 34-2

RING Magazine Rankings for Flyweight Division
L. Roman Gonzalez, 41-0
1. Juan Francisco Estrada, 30-2
2. Brian Viloria, 34-4
3. Edgar Sosa, 51-8
4. Juan Carlos Reveco, 34-1
5. Amnat Ruenroeng, 14-0
6. Moruti Mthalane, 31-2
7. Giovani Segura, 32-4-1
8. McWilliams Arroyo, 15-2
9. Kazuto Ioka, 15-1
10. Nawaphon Por Chokchai, 25-0

Boxrec Rankings for Flyweight Division
1. Roman Gonzalez, 41-0
2. Juan Francisco Estrada, 30-2
3. Juan Carlos Reveco, 34-1
4. Akira Yaegashi, 20-4
5. Brian Viloria, 34-4
6. Giovani Segura, 32-4-1
7. Edgar Sosa, 51-8
8. John Riel Casimero, 20-2
9. Suguru Muranaka, 21-2-1
10. Amnat Ruenroeng, 14-0

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What is your Flyweight top 5 or top 10?

Opinions on or predictions for the state of the division?

 

I'd go:
1. Viloria
2. H. Marquez
3. Mthalane
4. Igarashi (L)
5. Jaro

Honorable mention to Wonjongkam, Sosa, and Melindo. Gotta admit though, not familiar with Melindo at all...

 

[in a quiet, hesitant voice] No, no flyweight talk?

 

I agree.

Plus it would have been a domestic Filipino showdown. Big mistake by his management.

As for Wonjongkam, according to boxrec:
2012
3/2: Sonny Boy Jaro- L TKO6
5/31: ? Tubis- W KO3
7/27: Ji-Hun Lee- W TKO4 *
8/31: Hyobu Nakagama- W UD12 **
9/28: Charlie Cabilla- W TKO1
* with a recorded weight of 114 lbs.
** for the vacant WBC international flyweight title

 

I thought a lot about that when considering my 2011 Fighter of the Year (had him in my view of the clear top 3 with Donaire and Ward).

First of all, relatively speaking, Wonjongkam is the elite HOF flyweight of the era. I view him as a first ballot, and amongst the all timers at the weight.

Viloria's nasty mid-career crisis was just that. From 06-10 he had a bad stretch (barring his terrific Solis win). The fighters he's lost to are quality, no doubt. The Nino loss is a little blah with the positive test in the immediate rematch and the future beatdown in the third. But Edgar Sosa and Carlos Tamara in your physical prime?

That said, if he beats Hernan Marquez and decisively so, I'd put Viloria as having had one of the very best 2 year stretches in all of boxing, along with the before mentioned Donaire and Ward and that's it.

He was in awesome action fights, even in the one sided ones, with the three Nino, Solis, Miranda, Segura, and I can't see Marquez not being all action. Not that that boosts HOF credentials... but hey, an observation can't hurt.

He is a two weight titlist. A two time titlist at 108 and potentially a unified at 112. Impressive.

He turns 32 right after the fight next month, and that would be the lead in to my answer. Not now at all if he retired. He has plenty of time and the perfect opportunities to top off a resume that deserves thought. 112 is full of good top opposition to finish off while a move up to the weak 115 for a reign would be good icing on the cake.

Ulises Solis and Giovani Segura = elite victories
Julio Cesar Miranda = very good victory
Eric Ortiz, Omar Nino III, G. Keb Baas, and Jose Aguirre = good notable victories

He's on his way if he keeps to the recent trend... Needs a couple more defining fights and then just typical quality names/defenses. It's super tough for a flyweight to get in, on virtue of remaining consistent for any amount of extended time and, the obvious, getting competition that warrants high praise.

edit: Just looked into his amateur career. I knew he was great, with the famous Donaire fights. He was 230-8 with Gold at the '99 World Amateur Championships at light flyweight.

 

Good, I like...

Thanks for participating man, but honestly, this is one of those cases where I can't help but hold the opinion of "I'm right and you're way wrong" on this one.

Igarashi, Jaro, Wonjongkam all clearly ahead of Segura and Concepcion. Concepcion is a good shout for 7-9-ish for sure...

If we were talking about "P4P ranking of guys who are currently at flyweight" then yes, I agree, Segura makes the list with ease. But this is what they've done within the division limits.

Yep... I remember his fight with Manuel Vargas was supposed to be at flyweight but Segura came in overweight.