The very fact that there's a thread on this topic and people who voted Golovkin are also saying Jacobs victory is plausible (including myself) means this was truly an ultimately even fight. That means two things to me personally: a) Golovkin has genuinely slipped - he showed strong evidence of this over the last few fights. Still a brilliant fighter. b) Jacobs is elite, better than we thought.
False dilemma since there is a third option, Jacobs came in with a ridiculously huge weight advantage.
Yup the weight advantage definitely told in his favour. But I have to say that Jacobs exceeded expectations and really put up a good fight. I thought Golovkin won comfortably in terms of rounds, but it was a hard fight in the sense that Jacobs was always in it, firing back, moving, flurrying and trying new things. Props to DJ. Hope hey rematch.
Did he genuinely exceed expectations? We have to keep in mind that the expectations were based on his coming in at a certain weight as required in order to make it a fair fight. Can we say that I exceed expectations in a chess match if I cheat?
He made the 160 pound limit. What do you mean about this unfair fighting and cheating? He did neither and I'd love for you to explain otherwise. Maybe you saw some oil on the glove or some supplements in the Gatorade?
All I can say is that he exceeded MY expectations. I thought DJ's best chance was to throw the dice and try blow GGG out early. I never expected the fight to go the distance. Yeah, the weight advantage was a sneaky move but it was not outright cheating. If they have a rematch I hope that Golovkin's people will talk to the IBF to avoid IBF titelists getting shafted by that particular rule.
He's complaining about Jacobs blowing off the next day weigh-in required by the IBF and thus not fighting for that belt while Golovkin had to comply. And it's a pretty dumb complaint since Jacobs wasn't contractually required to abide by the IBF regulations and no one cared at all when Lemieux did the same thing against Stevens literally the same month. We don't even know what Jacobs weighed on fight night but at this point the revisionist accounts about this fight are such that according to some Golovkin won 9-3 against a guy who probably weighed 195 pounds in the ring.
I generously gave Jacobs the sixth round. That was the round, after losing the first five plus the kd, that he changed his game plan and decided to start running and acting like he was winning the fight. I just can't give a man rounds for playing "touch and run" and shoeshining. I was at the fight and there was a huge section of ringside fans, fully one fourth of the ringside, jumping up and down and cheering for everything Jacobs did. They looked like drunk bankers who all got comped by somebody. They clearly influenced the judges.
The weight thing brings a lot of different opinions. He sure did make the 160 limit, but sacked off the IBF one. Which is fine, it's clever tactics there's nothing 'wrong' with it. He didn't cheat, it does bug me when folk suggest it made no difference though. Were that the case then Jacobs' team would have tried to make the weight you assume. Just a smart move, no more no less.
Fabulous card, couldn't had scored it more accurately myself. How wide did you have chavez Jr clowning canelo ?
This. Jacobs was backing up and too negative, since he was scared of being knocked out. GGG was in complete control the whole fight. Jacobs did land a few good combos that got GGG's attention, but that's not enough to just hand rounds to him. People were surprised Jacobs went the distance and started saying nonsense like he won the fight or that it was close. Jacobs had no solution for GGG's jab all fight.
There's nothing wrong with that. He made 160 and routinely does so and Jacobs didn't impose his size so much. It's also Danny Jacobs, not prime ATG in Bernard Hopkins, whom a large number of boxing fans saw as Gennady's equal prior to the fight. Gennady IMO was better before he joined Abel Sanchez.