Your Hottest Takes:

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Mar 31, 2025.


  1. Moggy94

    Moggy94 Active Member Full Member

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    Boxing rounds should be 6-8 rounds max, if a draw they go to an extra round

    Lesser rounds makes for more exciting fights to the point where fighters can't coast to victories as much and have to go for the victory. This style works great in Kickboxing from the K-1 days to current Glory on a 3-5 round basis and there's always plenty of action.

    Also 6-8 rounds would lead to less weight cutting too I believe.
     
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  2. Moggy94

    Moggy94 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think you can rank old school fighters when there's absolutely little to no footage of them like Harry Greb for example, yes I'm sure he was great for his time but just reading newspaper report and books isn't the same as actual footage.
     
  3. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think anyone at 115 was in a hurry to face Inoue, tbf. Chocolatito turned down a formal offer back in 2017. Ancajas balked at facing him, too. By the time SSR was in the picture, Inoue couldn't make the weight.

    Also, that win over Fulton at 122 and the way it happened probably makes it among the top 5 victories in that divisions by the time all is said and done.
     
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  4. OddR

    OddR Active Member Full Member

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    Now there is a hot take. Personally I am glad there isn't 15 rounds anymore let alone more.

    The health and safety of fighters is important.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, I've softened on blaming for it, but I do wish those fights happened. Maybe I'm just dreaming of what could have happened.

    Fulton is quite an impressive win in terms of a dismantlement but I think there's all the more chance it becomes a sort of Cermeno vs Vazquez type of win rather than something like Gomez vs Zarate or Barrera vs Morales imo.
     
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  6. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is why I find it hard to rank old fighters a lot of ranking comes own to eye test and its almost impossible to rank fighters on eye test when we have no idea how they actually looked
     
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  7. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    @George Crowcroft

    Oh, for sure. Though given Gonzalez's form in 2017 I wonder if a definitive Inoue win would have been viewed as a crowning achievement. I do think wins over Estrada and SSR would have been lovely feathers in the cap, though. Inoue doing a prompt cleanout of an admittedly weaker 118 division still impresses me to take most of the sting out of this.

    A lot of it depends on what Fulton does going forward, but the way he bamboozled a sturdy larger Figueroa was impressive. If he proves to be a difficult out going forward, a total whitewash will look good, especially when combined with a potential run of a top 5 at 122.

    (reply option messed up on me)
     
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  8. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    I actually just pulled that take on the spot after reading through the most recent RJJ thread, I think it could be a good fight as Canelo does seem to have a good chin and is kind of unorthodox/awkward in his own right, I would have to watch more of both of them to make a breakdown of a fantasy fight
     
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    If Inoue managed to beat Ford and Espinoza, it would be a lot better than anything he could do at 115.
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't know about Ford but beating Espinoza is not as impressive as beating Estrada or Gonzalez. No way, no how.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I watched a few fights of the top guys at 126, and yeah, I'm not really impressed. Sure, they'll all be good wins in the sense that they're all ranked and in a higher weight class so it is impressive, but I'm not impressed by them in the sense of them being great fighters. Especially Lopez, I thought he looked awful. Leo, Ball and Espinoza are all good fighters, but I think they're food for Inoue. Truthfully, I think Fulton might actually be the best 126lber and we saw what Inoue did to him.

    I'm sticking with this; it sucks for Inoue and I won't knock him for beating them coz what else can he do? The division sucks and beating those five is definitely less impressive than even beating the Choco who fought SRR or the Estrada who first fought Cuadras.
     
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  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    TBF to Gonzalez, Inoue did skip over 112 right around the time Gonzalez was destroying guys like Villoria there. If they'd have fought at that point Gonzalez would've smacked him about imo. Inoue's team correctly gathered that he wasn't ready for that level yet. They only wanted Choco after it was apparent he was past peak and pat his best weight.
     
  13. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Crawford is top 5 P4P in history.
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Espinoza fights ar 6'1, 145. Dont be ridiculous.
     
  15. OddR

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    Def a hot take for sure.