Your larry holmes v tim witherspoon scorecard ?

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  1. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    i watched holmes v spoon today (without sound because angelo dundee did a horrid job commentating on that fight ) my score card

    115 to 114 larry holmes
    how did you guys score it ?
    discuss:smoke damn some of those rds were close
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Can't remember the rounds but i had Holmes by 1 or 2 points.
     
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  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had Holmes by two points. Don't have the numbers handy but he edged it IMO.

    Really good fight, need to give it another look sometime soon.
     
  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My scorecard

    Round 1: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 2: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 3: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 4: 10-10 Even
    Round 5: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 6: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 7: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 8: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 9: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 10: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 11: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 12: 10-10 Even

    116-114 Holmes
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I remember i had Holmes by 2 rounds
     
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  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes by two points
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Wish this had been 15 rounds, they probably could have settled it with more clarity. There's a moment in the 12th, where Witherspoon is up on his toes, crowd loving it, and Larry just blasts him with a beautiful straight, one of his best punches. Of course, Witherspoon likely wouldn't have done that in 12th if it wasn't the last round, but I think that was a bit of a tide-turning punch against a tired opponent.

    Not that Witherspoon didn't miss his own chase to win the fight, I think that he was unaware of how hurt Holmes was in the 9th, which is as good as the final round of Norton-Holmes for me. Close, good fight, with Witherspoon showing a world class taste for range, even if all that **** about his "out-jabbing" Holmes is just that. Holmes landed more, better jabs.

    HOLMES:1,2,4,5,11,12
    WITHERSPOON:3,6,7,8,9,10

    So I have Holmes rallying for a draw after a disastrous third quarter. Ultra-close rounds (rounds I was uncomfortable scoring) were 2,6 and 8, so if I were to score rounds even, I would have Holmes shading it. I guess that makes me happy with a Holmes win if it had to go one way or the other even if the overall flavour of the fight doesn't neccessarily feel that way.
     
  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    If you give Tim a 10-8 for the round he hurt Larry it is a draw. If not it is a win for Larry.
     
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  9. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    no way rd 9 is 10 to 8 ....after larry got rocked he fought right back ...10 to 9 rd spoon butnot even close to 10 to 8
     
  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gave it to Holmes by a point or so. I thought a rematch for 'Spoon was deserved, and would happen after a tune-up or two. (The great thing about Joe Louis as champ, he made certain of the result the second time around).
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    :good

    That's what I meant. I've scored it a few times and the only case you can make for Tim even getting a draw is if he gets the 10-8 in round 9. And like you say it's not a strong enough case. It's just a close fight.
     
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  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Holmes won it by 2 points. Witherspoon did not do enough in the first six rounds.

    Witherpsoon had some nice mid rounds, but Holmes came on and clearly won the 11th and 12th, sealing the victory.
     
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  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, it would have been nice if Witherspoon got a rematch.

    The fight was a wakeup call for Holmes...not to take on anyone dangerous.

    Thus, we were treated to Scott Frank and Marvis Frazier instead of Witherspoon agains, or Greg Page.

    BTW I had it 115-113 Holmes
     
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I had it 7-5.

    Can't remember my exact rounds though.
     
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  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I haven't watched since the night it happened, but I gave it close/clear to Tim.
     
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