Your larry holmes v tim witherspoon scorecard ?

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  1. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    i watched holmes v spoon today (without sound because angelo dundee did a horrid job commentating on that fight ) my score card

    115 to 114 larry holmes
    how did you guys score it ?
    discuss:smoke damn some of those rds were close
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Can't remember the rounds but i had Holmes by 1 or 2 points.
     
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  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had Holmes by two points. Don't have the numbers handy but he edged it IMO.

    Really good fight, need to give it another look sometime soon.
     
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  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My scorecard

    Round 1: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 2: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 3: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 4: 10-10 Even
    Round 5: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 6: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 7: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 8: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 9: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 10: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 11: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 12: 10-10 Even

    116-114 Holmes
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I remember i had Holmes by 2 rounds
     
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  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes by two points
     
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  7. McGrain

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    Wish this had been 15 rounds, they probably could have settled it with more clarity. There's a moment in the 12th, where Witherspoon is up on his toes, crowd loving it, and Larry just blasts him with a beautiful straight, one of his best punches. Of course, Witherspoon likely wouldn't have done that in 12th if it wasn't the last round, but I think that was a bit of a tide-turning punch against a tired opponent.

    Not that Witherspoon didn't miss his own chase to win the fight, I think that he was unaware of how hurt Holmes was in the 9th, which is as good as the final round of Norton-Holmes for me. Close, good fight, with Witherspoon showing a world class taste for range, even if all that **** about his "out-jabbing" Holmes is just that. Holmes landed more, better jabs.

    HOLMES:1,2,4,5,11,12
    WITHERSPOON:3,6,7,8,9,10

    So I have Holmes rallying for a draw after a disastrous third quarter. Ultra-close rounds (rounds I was uncomfortable scoring) were 2,6 and 8, so if I were to score rounds even, I would have Holmes shading it. I guess that makes me happy with a Holmes win if it had to go one way or the other even if the overall flavour of the fight doesn't neccessarily feel that way.
     
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  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    If you give Tim a 10-8 for the round he hurt Larry it is a draw. If not it is a win for Larry.
     
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  9. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    no way rd 9 is 10 to 8 ....after larry got rocked he fought right back ...10 to 9 rd spoon butnot even close to 10 to 8
     
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  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gave it to Holmes by a point or so. I thought a rematch for 'Spoon was deserved, and would happen after a tune-up or two. (The great thing about Joe Louis as champ, he made certain of the result the second time around).
     
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  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    :good

    That's what I meant. I've scored it a few times and the only case you can make for Tim even getting a draw is if he gets the 10-8 in round 9. And like you say it's not a strong enough case. It's just a close fight.
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Holmes won it by 2 points. Witherspoon did not do enough in the first six rounds.

    Witherpsoon had some nice mid rounds, but Holmes came on and clearly won the 11th and 12th, sealing the victory.
     
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  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, it would have been nice if Witherspoon got a rematch.

    The fight was a wakeup call for Holmes...not to take on anyone dangerous.

    Thus, we were treated to Scott Frank and Marvis Frazier instead of Witherspoon agains, or Greg Page.

    BTW I had it 115-113 Holmes
     
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  14. lufcrazy

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    I had it 7-5.

    Can't remember my exact rounds though.
     
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  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I haven't watched since the night it happened, but I gave it close/clear to Tim.
     
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