Your Light-Heavyweight Mt. Rushmore?

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  1. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Where there is no kindness; no courage either Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Michael Spinks and Gene Tunney
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is correct. The four horsemen at 175lbs.
     
  4. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In fights contested at LHW (above 164lbs & under 180lbs for non-title fights) Greb went around 94-6-5.

    He beat Gene Tunney, Tommy Loughran x 4, Tommy Gibbons, Jack Dillon x 2, Maxie Rosenbloom, Jimmy Delaney x 3, Battling Levinsky x 6 (six), Tiger Flowers, Kid Norfolk, Al McCoy, Clay Turner x 4, Jeff Smith, Lou Bogash, Gus Christie & Soldier Bartfield.

    I rank Ezzard Charles as the greatest LHW of all time, all things considered, but Greb has by far the deepest win resume of fights contested in the division.
     
  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm? Now here I already had my mind made up and you post about this Greb and I have to reconsider. Could he beat who I think are the top 4 , Moore, Spinks, Charles and Foster? Sigh,,yeah I think he'd get a win somewhere, if he could beat Tunney, Loughren and Gibbons he could beat one or more of those guys. . Dang it! Now , who among those 4 do I replace with Greb? See what ya started? LOL!
    Good post,.
     
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  7. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha, apologies for complicating things after you'd made your mind up.

    It depends on your criteria.

    H2H? I've no idea how Greb would get on against these 4, I tend to steer clear of making predictions in cross-era fantasy fights due to the scale of unknown variables, and that's when we have film, which we don't of Greb.

    Resume/greatness? I think Foster, whilst the most dominant LHW champion by pure numbers, clearly has the weakest LHW resume of the 4 you originally chose plus Greb.
     
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  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Archie
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    Looks like I'm late, but that's how I see it.
     
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  9. Seamus

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  10. Drew101

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  11. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Archie Moore
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  12. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    couldn't pick just four! Fitz could easily be Charles and Foster easily Spinks! I'd pick Qawi but I saw Spinks box him, so Spinks would have to go ahead of him for "best."

    My personal favorites at the division:
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    Spinks
    Jones
    Foster
     
  13. ChrisJS

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  14. biglads

    biglads Climbing the WBO Rankings Full Member

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    I know Saad doesn't belong here on talent but he sure does on heart and entertainment
     
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  15. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And that was what the thread was asking, Saad is exactly the type of fighter to make you fall in love with a division.

    Mind you, he had the perfect cast with which to shine. Yacqui, Pops Johnson, John Conteh, Eddie Mustafa, Dwight Qawi, Vonzell Johnson, Richie Kates etc. I hadn't realised until I checked for the purpose of this post but he was no 24 on The Ring's greatest punchers of all time list. Blimey.

    Just an all round amazing story that would make you love boxing, never mind LHW division. How it transformed the life of a poor orphan boy, kept him out of jail and made him a star - you'd just have to stop watching before the Qawi fights because it then shows how boxing can bite even the most successful of its participants hard.

    Of course, if there was ever a light heavy that would make you say 'mein Gott' as @Rollin asks, then there really only ever was one Henry Maske.