Your most over-rated boxer

The difference between the people picking Ali and Dino is that he immediately had to defend his position against half a dozer or so posters.

Greb, Langford and SRR are mainly candidates in so much as they are so highly rated that it's certainly hard to say they're underrated.

For me personally SRR is probably the GOAT, and those that argue for Langford or Greb as the GOAT usually do a good job imo. My main hesitation there is the reliance on second and third hand sources due to the lack of footage.

 

He had to defend his position cause his first post had problems. More than one. You on the other hand questioned Greb's ranking twice now and there still no reason to engage. There's no contradictions, no inaccuracies, no problems.

Also part of the reason Greb's discussion persisted is cause he chose to follow on it (poorly). His position regarding Langford was put in question too and would probably be easier to defend considering how spread his record is in terms of weight limit, some prearranged draws, some freak losses when he begun moving up in weight,... Much more gaps to fill.

 

SRR at middleweight. His position as supposed best at that weight really can't be defended intelligently.

 

What the hell are you on about frankenfrank. How can Ali, Leonard, Louis and Holmes be overrated given the standard of opposition they faced as well as all they acheived? These guys are the best that the sport has produced and respected as such. Stop trying to denigrate what they acheived during their careers as they are unlikely to be matched by many others.
Clueless!

 

I think Mcgrain you have firmly proved your point!

 

LaMotta was past prime and very drained at that point. A victory like that would be called meaningless by many fans if it happened today (Pac-DLH for comparison).

Oh, and LaMotta is a quite overrated fighter, I think.

 

To decide if somebody is overrated, you first have to establish where they are rated.

That means that you have to factor in their detractors as well as their proponents, and take a sort of mean of the distribution.

Once a significant movement against a fighter sets in, it unlikely that they fall too far under the midpoint of the scatter.

 

That was a great, even superlative effort. And it doesn't come close to telling the whole story. No one fight does for any fighter.

 

I personally don't think so, no.......I mean it's a nice step in that direction, but it's only a step toward the argument. He just lost too many times at 160 to too many people. There's a lot of downside there as well.

 

Can't argue that he looks amazing in that fight, that's for sure. I guess we just have two different definitions of the term.

 

For heavyweights Ali is over rated in the public eye. Although I do consider him the GOAT. But not so much for his great boxing ability. But this whole float like a butterfly sting like a bee stuff is not what makes Ali great in my opinion. Its his chin and heart. And the level of opposition he has faced and as a heavyweight never been knocked out.

For non heavyweights I think some guys are being over rated right now. Golovkin and Kovalev for example. They are very good. And they may very well go on to achieve ATG status. But right now they simply dont have build the legacy yet. Yet some people call them greatest MW/LHW of all time.