Your most over-rated boxer

Calzaghe on here.

 

Ali is, of course, the correct answer.

 

who i overrate the most = barney ross
who others here overrate the most = maybe dempsey, carnera, duran, hagler, monzon, tua or haye, i don't wanna put words in others mouths

 

agree wiz this except Sanchez whom is d single gr8est MX faiter OAT, this and Pryor was not really a good fighter.

And how cud u 4get Ali ?

 

Graziano? Who rates him high?

 

Back in the late 70s early 80s, there was a Boxing Book of Lists in one of the glossy magazines which rated Graziano over LaMotta. [It was one of the Victory Sports Series publications, not The Ring or Boxing Illustrated.]

In the next issue of Flash Gordon's "Tonight's Boxing Program", Jack "K.O. J.O." Obermayer ripped it to shreds. "Graziano over LaMotta? No way, Bub!" [He also smashed them for listing Jerry Quarry as one of their top Great White Hope disappointments, while contradictorily listing JQ as one of the ten best never to win a title. For whatever it's worth though, at least that particular list was topped off by a prominent photograph and name of a still alive and well Charley Burley, then in his early 60s. I'd like to think he derived some small pleasure from that acknowledgement, where Nat Fleischer and The Ring had given him none.]

 

The hall of fame?

 

Oh, I thought we were talking about reasonably popular picks that one might think are a little overrated. I wouldn't mention Michael Nunn based on Herb Goldman's list for example.

 

Let's not go there.

 

Haye

Kahn

 

I guess I'd have to say Marvin Hagler. The man is partly responsible for one of the greatest comebacks in sporting history, which was significant due to the fact that he lost to a well past it, totally inactive, blown-up welterweight - a fight that was universally and rightly perceived as being a total mismatch. And in a sport where wins and accomplishments are routinely scoffed at and discredited, you'd think that he'd actually come in for a lot more stick/criticism for such an embarrassing loss, but no.

 

Well, Paul Newman portrayed Graziano in "Somebody Up there Likes Me," around a quarter century before "Raging Bull," so Rocky certainly had a tremendous commercial head start. Never underestimate the value of effective publicity. [Jake himself said that for DeNiro to win the Oscar for his portrayal of LaMotta was like winning the MW Title all over again, a wave he's now been riding for well over three decades, and which former wife Vikki rode for the rest of her life as well.]

Since you asked who rates Graziano high, I thought I might as well chime in with that previous boxing magazine anecdote.

 

Carlos Zarate quite easily...Often ranked in the top 3-5 Bantams, yet has very few quality wins to show for it against ranked opposition. People love power, and it blinds them to reality.

HW = Tua...Heck Tua wins fantasy match-ups on this forum that he lost in real life. He never won a title, nor beat a great fighter, and lost every time he tried...yet, he hypothetically destroys many greats...almost laughable.

 

:deal

 

Zarate was considered the best fighter in the world something that none of the three amigos or any philly fighter can claim.