Your most under rated fighters H2H?

1. Nonito Donaire unbeatable from 112-118. He would be favored over every fly, superfly and bantam in history.

2. Henry Maske I think he gives a lot of trouble to a lot of different ATG lightheavies.

3. Oscar De La Hoya below 147 is a special special talent.

4. Freddie Norwood at most there are maybe 6 FWs I would favor over him

 

He would beat Lomachenko

 

Hey? THAT's not Chaney from "Hard Times"! WTF?

 

Now THAT is Chaney. "Hard Times" is the greatest unknown movie. Chaney greatest rail riding bo ever. Even over A#1. It's not Bronson, it's Chaney. "Things have a way of coming around."

 

Ernesto Marcel.

 

This post gave me AIDS

 

Saoul Mamby.

At 140, no matter who you match him up against the result is either:
1) Mamby wins
2) Mamby loses, but his opponent struggles and looks unimpressive

 

Maybe Sumbu Kalambay? Yeah, yeah, I know. That blowout loss inside a round to Nunn. Not easy to explain. But I think it was a bit of a freak occurrence - not that Nunn won, but how he won. He wasn't a one-punch knockout artist, and Kalambay was usually very cute defensively. That one round knockout went against all common sense and I'm more inclined to think that Nunn (while still the favourite in any case at that point) just caught him a little cold and it was one of those one-off kind of things.

But that aside, Kalambay is a difficult night's work for most Middleweights in history, and even within his own era he's too easily forgotten. McCallum had the bogeyman reputation as the guy the likes of Hearns and Hagler didn't want to face, but Kalambay dominated and outclassed an unbeaten McCallum - it's one of the great performances of his time. With a different set of judges, he could easily have beaten McCallum (himself a genuine great) a second time, as I had him edging the rematch by a single point, too, albeit it was close and I can't have any real complaints.

Took Herol Graham's '0' as well, pretty comfortably (although their rematch was close). Graham was another member of the 'Who needs Him?' club, lest we forget. Solid wins over Collins, De Witt, Barkley etc. At least one of his losses (Kalule) was an abysmal decision. Kalambay had ring craft, speed, great durability and stamina, could counter with the best of them - yet the lad hardly ever gets a mention these days.

Definitely an underrated head-to-head nightmare for many guys at 160.

 

Sumbu is a great mention. McCallum gets great traction H2H and i reckon Sumbu is surely around that calibre.

 

I think Nigel Ben at 160 or even 168 is a handful for anyone of any era.

 

The fact that incompetence and corruption are rife in refereeing and judging in Asia means that a lot of fighters have misleading records if going purely by official decisions due to improperly stopped fights or corrupt scorecards. So a lot of posters in the West who haven't actually watched the fights used to under-rate certain fighters who got short end of the corruption racket (for instance, Harada and Chang) and over-rate certain fighters who benefited from it (for instance, Kingpetch and Chitalada). Thankfully, this tendency to rate fighters almost exclusively on the basis of a stroll down Boxrec has diminished, as more film, albeit grainy, has become available on Youtube.

 

Ernesto Marcel is very underrated H2H Featherweight IMO. A fantastic boxer who was hard to beat and quite frankly I think he can hold his own well with other top Featherweights.

Masao Ohba and Santos Laciar are also a good H2H fighters at Flyweight who would be tough for anyone at that weight.