Your opinion of Lucian Bute - the man, the warrior - is Bute good for boxing?

His last 4 fights were with neutral judges and referees. Do your homework.

 

Maybe by origin, but they were still on the Interbox payroll those nights, Bute is just a hometown pretender.

 

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Bute is, by far, the best 168lb. boxing in the world today! Ward is scared to death of him! Bute was not allowed to fight in the tournament for a very good reason. Ward gets all his fights in his home town for a very good reason!

 

Of course he's good for boxing, he signed with Showtime to fight the best 168lbs fighters out there. He will go to LHW when the time is right.

 

Would you care pointing out which fight/cards appeared unfair to you from a judging standpoint? Any ammo regarding the refs, at all?!? This isn't Oakland, get it right.


Jean Bedard told the media about making an offer to 'Green' following Pascal's "I'm the king in Montreal now, I'll fight anyone!!" statement, but that doesn't mean ****... Bedard cried a river when Green KTFO Lucas years ago, and that was at SMW. Bedard made a beginner's (emotional) mistake at the mic, get the **** over it.

BTW: http://ruefrontenac.com/sports/boxe/26610-bute-pascal

«Pascal se croit le roi de la boxe locale, et ça, je ne l’apprécie pas du tout, a déclaré Bute à des proches. Je vais affronter Jesse Brinkley le 15 octobre au Centre Bell (défense obligatoire de son titre mondial des poids super moyens [168 livres] de l’IBF), puis je vais me faire un devoir de régler le cas de Pascal.»



Bute would have fought Froch and/or Kessler had the S6 never been made. He now gets angry at reporters who ask about the quality of his opponents vs purses.

Anyone who thinks he's fighting Brinkleys or Magees for his summer and fall/winter fights with Showtime is plain delusional. Not for this kind of money.

WBC promised Kessler a shot to the belt holder once he's back? That doesn't mean jack ****. When will we see Martinez-Chavez Jr? There you go. Showtime will decide who the S6 winner faces next, not the WBC. Bute-Kessler late summer, or in the fall is a very plausible fight from the network's standpoint. The hell with Kessler being unavailable, they'll stick Dirrell in there if anything. Have you heard Hershman talk about Bute @ the contract signing presser?! Jesus ****.

 

Ward and Virgil Hunter are very confident people. There is no way they are scared of Bute. As much as I like Bute and think he is one of the best fighters in the world, Ward takes him in a fight. There are very few, if any other fighters in the 168lbs range that could beat Bute. Ward is just special and adapts very well to who he is fighting. Bute is a very smart fighter, but he has his fight style and that is pretty much it. Nothing wrong with that, and for him, 99% of the time it will be enough. I just dont think he has what it takes to beat Ward. I dont think anyone does.

 

Oh, no doubt. There a few places in the world these days that have as much money to pay the opponents. Off TV fights in the USA are a joke. In Montreal there is still enough gate money to go around to get a decent undercard. Why do you think they are getting St Juste and Miranda to agree to an off network fight?

 

has that uppercut hurt you that badly....

 

I respect your point of view. But I just don't see it. If Ward tries to work on the inside, it might work for a couple of rounds, but he will almost certainly get caught by a vicious uppercut when he comes in. On the other hand, if he stays at long range, he will get outboxed. Bute might well be the very best fighter in the world when it comes to find the perfect distance (also considering he doesn't have an impressive reach like Wlad Klitschko, for instance).

 

Miranda was able to hang in with Bute the first two rounds. That was all about boxing and Miranda was even able to arguably win the first two, at the very least one. Ward is on a different planet when it comes to boxing 'skills' and a game plan.

Bute beat Miranda because he is smart and knew is was a matter of time before Miranda made a mistake. He saw the chin coming out during the jabs and was waiting to counter with a perfect left uppercut. Ward will not be making such bad mistakes. He is quick, allusive and one of the most athletic boxers I have watched. He can change his style in a blink of an eye if things are not going his way.

To me, Bute would never beat Ward on points. He would have to find a weakness in Ward and be able to get to him and finish the fight. Possibe, but I see it going to Ward by a close UD, even in Montreal!

 

Maybe it's just me, but I thought Ward's gameplan vs Bika.. sucked. Total opposite of how he handled Kessler. Ward lost some of the early rounds, didn't change his style. Grinded up, worked the inside, all in all played Bika's game. Bute was lost at sea for the first two rounds vs Bika, couldn't keep an ideal distance, but... ended up ad******g. If anything, Bika could have cut Ward with a headbutt late in the fight, forcing a disappointing TD. Not very smart on Ward's part.

The Ward who fought Kessler confuses the hell out of Bute and wins on pts, where as the Ward who fought Bika eats uppercuts all night if not stopped in 8. My $0.02.

EDIT: WTF, SERIOUSLY? ****** IS CENSORED?!??? ******!!!!! BIEBER!!!!

 

Lucian's plan was to study Miranda early on cause he knew the first 4-5 rounds is the only moment where Miranda could catch him with something solid and everyone knows Edison hits like a mule, so he was careful by design. If Bute truly wanted to, he would have outboxed the shoes off Miranda from the 1st second of the fight.

I totally recognize Ward as being athletically gifted and mostly technically very good but unlike most others, I don't think he's as good as many make him out to be. A good game plan with Bute's assets could be enough to win a UD. I certainly think that Bute can outbox Ward, especially as the rounds move on...

The problem is that against Ward, I see Bute fighting too much in a "cerebral mode" and not letting his fighting instincts take over enough. Because of that, I think it would be a stinker ending in a close UD for Ward such as 7-5 with 1 or 2 of those Ward rounds being very close.

 

You make a point here and I can't argue with that. I wish Miranda had not made such an early mistake that Bute took advantage of. I would like to seen this fight go into the middle and later rounds. I think we would have seen a better Miranda then many think with Goossen working the fight. Against Ward, Miranda was lost after round 8. I think Goossen could have helped Miranda pull out a shocker in the later rounds and kept in close and exciting. Bute did what a champions do. He found a weakness and exposed it. Something Ward wasn't able to necessarily do. hmmmm

 

I think Miranda connection % was 15. He was hitting mainly the air and Bute's gloves, when Bute was connecting at 50%. Bute was controlling the center of the ring and won easily the first 2 rounds.