Your opinions on John Ruiz

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His fights were awful
     
    THE BLADE 2, Jul 13, 2021
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  2. MaxDamage

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    The one heavyweight titleholder who lost to not one, but two blown up middleweight.
     
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  3. Chuck1052

    Chuck1052 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, there has been clinching in boxing, but I have never seen a fighter who clinched on such a constant basis as John Ruiz did during his career. What was even worse, Ruiz constantly fell into clinches after throwing a single jab throughout his bouts. I have never seen another fighter who would throw so few punches before falling into a clinch.

    - Chuck Johnston
     
    Chuck1052, Jul 13, 2021
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  4. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.

    Actually he came in with his shoulder----effective as an inside punch. But there is a big reason they did not match him with hitters.
     
    zadfrak, Jul 13, 2021
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I have almost completed his career set on DVD.

    If anyone has the following fights, please DM me.

    Mike Vasser
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  6. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Who buys a career of John Ruiz?
     
    steve1990, Jul 13, 2021
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  7. Quisling

    Quisling Member Full Member

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    Well put. Ruiz was one of the worst HW beltholders of all time. He "triumphed" by breaking the RULES against excessive holding. His entire career against world class opposition is utterly fraudulent.

    Ruiz is the poster boy for boxing corruption in the 90s and early 2000s. In a fair fight against any decent contender, he gets destroyed just like he did against David Tua.
     
    Quisling, Jul 14, 2021
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  8. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't like to watch him but he got the nod over a lot of good fighters. It was shocking that he beat Holyfield. Shocking.
     
    vast, Jul 14, 2021
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Holyfield "triumphed" by breaking the rules too, in and out of the ring.
     
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  10. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Quiet Man was adept as a remedy for insomnia as well
     
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  11. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    Would have likely fit right into the Johnson and Jeffries era.
     
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  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Without Don King hes a middling contender.

    in the mid 80s DK at least had a group of fresh talented guys who were forced to fight each other. DK, on the other hand, very carefully matched Ruiz.
     
    Saad54, Jul 15, 2021
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  13. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Just shows there's little to no Hispanics in heavyweight boxing.
     
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  14. Jon1962

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    Take away the clinching he's another Scott LeDoux.
     
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Smart, tricky, spoiler. Better than people generally want to admit. Not small, but not big, he used guile to get by and broke and bent the rules to facilitate that. Dull to watch, hard to beat, an important part of that generation of fighters. Golata, Holyfield, Rahman, Johnson and Tucker, that's better than he should have been beating with his power/speed/size combo. I admire him, even though I don't ever rewatch his fights.
     
    McGrain, Oct 3, 2023
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