I'd have probably favoured prime Mosley against the Mayweather of last night. The two clean right hands he landed in the fight both shook Floyd up bad, and prime Mosley can go 12 rounds like that no problem. Floyd had virtually nothing to deal with from the second round onwards, it's almost as if Mosley was happy to just go out and say, "Well, I hurt Floyd Mayweather Jr". Utterly bizarre, Floyd played his part in making Shane uncomfortable, countering at will at times, but that doesn't fully explain why Mosley would miraculously stop throwing punches.
What about benitez slipping up to 15 odd punches in a row against someone like Hearns while not evn moving his legs, compared to Floyd flat footed against Corley and Mosley?. Or Benitez proper boxing and consistently making Cervantes miss compared to Floyd's sipping and blocking on the ropes against castillo?. Both are great defensive fighters imo.Though i've never quite agreed with the comparison some posters here make with them stylistically.They were very different fighters.Both with some great and not so great performances, moreso Benitez there.
Mayweathers a freak who could go toe to toe with any atg fighter in his weightclass. A perfect example of quality > quantity.
He slowed down in part because he was being made a fool of.That will make anyone hesitant to throw, especially if they are old and canf eel they don't have another gear to go to.
I don't buy it. As early as the third round, he stopped throwing punches, and that was coming off a dominant round. I think he got very tired, and then when Mayweather started pressing the action, he didn't know how to deal with it. I don't see how anyone could favor Mayweather so strongly based on last night's showing, prime Mosley was a different entity altogether.
Can you think of another example of an elite athlete with an 8 week training camp gassing in round 2?
He was fading, but Mayweather was taking the play away from him. Every jab Mosley threw in the third round just got countered automatically. He couldn't land the straight right. If Mosley can't do that and you're not walking forward onto him, he's pretty much ****ed. He just doesn't/didn't have the technical tools or the speed to get to PBF, and that's the bottom line.
Yes. Floyd paralysed him. The shocking thing is, there are guys, guys who should know better, who are saying that Shane should have thrown the right hand more...and jabbed more. That really is their plan. He was shipping punches when he made these moves. He didn't become less active because 6 minutes of excersise had done him in... Somehwere in Oz Sweet Scientist is waking up just in preminiation of my writing this, but I think a comparison to Kid Gavilan is in order, NOT in terms of styles,but in terms of punishing the opponents leads to the degree where he is second guessing himself and then having taken away his intensity, he forces his own attack on a befuddled opponent. Masterful.
Exactly. I don't think there's a dispute that Mosley was tired, was it visibly in the way Mosley stopped throwing punches, the way he look unorganized, and how his mouth was wide open, getting up slowly from his corner? I'm not saying Floyd played no part, but you make an excellent, point, elite fighters aren't supposed to get tired after two rounds, but Mosley did. He's 38 years of age, has come off two training camps back to back and hasn't fought a competitive fight in over a year. Mosley was terrible, Mayweather was great.
Fighters stop throwing when they keep missing and getting countered and dont have an easy target. I thought Brother Nazim would transform Mosley to get him upto the challenge, get him doing difference things, tighten his defense, keep him busy. Mosley ofcourse had the same old flaws, looking for the big shot (which was never available after the second round) and having a defense you could drive a double decker bus through
You rather miss my point. I was sayng that he wasn't tired after two rouds. Unless there is some hell making the weight, that just doesn't happen Addie.
He was tired, there's no other explanation for his work rate coming down so dramatically and his mouth being wide open so early on.
He was being hit, he was missing, he was being made a fool of, and he is not a great adaptive boxe (see Winky for the proof of this). He had the play taken away. Was he tired? Sure, but not as tired as Williams was in round 11 against Margarito, and he still threw an awful lot of punches. Two rounds just doesn't, does not, does not make a fighter tired enough that he stops throwing punhes. It doesn't happen.
You do recognize that a professional fighter, even one that's aged 38 years old, shouldn't be tired that early on? Mosley wasn't being made a fool of until the third round, and by that time he was already showing signs of being gassed.