Your personal top 5 Jabbers of all time.?

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  1. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    The only other guy from Camacho's era [actually immediately preceding his emergence] that I saw machine gun his jab like that as a matter of routine procedure was Pete Ranzany. He could be slow to get it going, and a good key to beating him was to be sure to keep it bottled up. Less than a year before he hung up the gloves, he took O'Grady to school in Las Vegas [raising some questions in my mind as to whether or not Sean was ever truly a world class fighter]. A solid NABF WW titlist from the mid to late 1970s.

    Prime Muniz [on cuts], peak Cuevas [by rightly never giving him a chance to get going], peak SRL [who had previously bested Ranzany as an amateur, and was simply too fast and powerful by late 1979], peak Benitez [the one guy who dominated him on the cards in Sacramento], peak McCrory [in a Detroit UD] and peak LaRocca [in Rome on points for Pete's retirement match] account for six of Ranzany's eight career defeats. Pete would unload those jabs from behind a high guard, then return that left immediately back into place while maintaining an upright posture. Ranzany's good study material for aspiring boxers. Sound form and excellent conditioning [he never gassed, to the best of my knowledge], although not particularly mobile or elusive. Certainly not a candidate for this thread, but Pete's jab itself does compare favorably to what Camacho's would look like from an orthodox posture. [I wonder what a southpaw Ranzany might have achieved with a right jab like his left.]

    Miguel Canto was perfectly capable of unloading 5-6 rapid jabs like that, but he was so versatile that he wasn't viewed doing this often. However, in an early round against Jiro Takada [the only challenger Canto stopped in world title competition], El Maestro followed up a six hook combination with a succession of a half dozen quick short jabs, in the definitive offensive performance of his career.
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Excellent post.
     
  3. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd probably say Holmes, Whitaker, Quartey, Ali, Hearns.

    Honorable mentions for Hagler, Liston, Wlad, Lewis, (although too often he used it as a rangefinder) Oscar, Tunney, etc.
     
  4. BoxingFanPhil

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    My wife. You should see her jabber. She never stops. I can cite my phone bill as evidence.
     
  5. lora

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    I've always quite liked Ranzany as well.

    he wasn't a flashy talent, but definitely a very solid, tough and technically sound stand-up fighter.
     
  6. TheSouthpaw

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    Right!...:good
     
  7. TheSouthpaw

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    What does your phone bill have to do with your wives jab!!:nut:lol:
     
  8. zadfrak

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    Yep. II love the accuracy of the Joe Louis jab. Absolute perfect timing in the milliseconds to get perfect extension and force on the punch. It was a power jab, not the flicking type==which guys like Holmes and Ali used to get opponents off balance.

    The guy I think in recent times anyway, that stuffs his jab with perfect extension and timing was Dariusz Michalczewski. Just like Louis did--not telegraphed and could very well be against opponents with quicker feet and hands up and longer reach, but that jab would penetrate between gloves and snap the opponents head. Absolute perfect geometry and physics at work in the boxing ring.

    Like Joe, it was almost exclusively a solitary jab for Dariusz. But man, was that thing effective. And accurate. It just landed clean so often at like 90% extension in the center of the opponents face, it'd just jolt the opponent. Bang. Hard to slip and virtually impossible to walk through. It stops guys in their tracks and that jab just seems to force opponents to start thinking and you can almost see the opponent talking to themselves.

    What a nightmare guy it'd be to face a Joe Louis when you think about his great lefthook off the jab.
     
  9. TheSouthpaw

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    Louis was such a marksman too when he was in his prime..Love the guy:good
     
  10. Monte Fisto

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    the ghetto wizard
     
  11. TheSouthpaw

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    :blood
     
  12. lora

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    Louis' jab was only a powerful looking shot in a few of his fights.It WAS often a pushed rangefinder.
     
  13. TheSouthpaw

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    Louis's Jab was a multi tasking punch..he used it in many different ways thats why he was so dangerous and pretty much why his right hand was so devastating..that great jab!
     
  14. nostir a

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    surprised lewis's jab and wlads jab havnt been brought up, especially with all the love lennox gets......
     
  15. kingfisher3

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    i almost put wlad instead of holmes, but that would be wrong.