Your Ranking of Larry Holmes?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    As a Heavy, o' course.

    Does anyone have him in their top five?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    On any given day, I can have Holmes rated somewhere between 4-7 depending on how I'm feeling. He had a fair balance of plusses and minuses. The upside is that he was unbeaten in his first 48 fights, and managed to be very competitive later in his old age. The downside, is that he did not always fight the absolute most qualified fighters during his title reign, as well as had some flat performances that probably warranted rematches that were never given.

    As for a definitive ranking, I can never seem to give him one. About the only position that I can consistantly take, is that #3 is too high, and #8 is too low. Every other spot inbetween is fair game for Holmes.
     
  3. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    skill-wise had to be the best all-around fighter p4p at heavyweight. He had the best jab ever, very good hand speed despite his physique, wide array of punches, a great chin, defensively sound, and a huge heart. He could beat you with the jab alone, but could fight inside and out. Based on accomplishment he makes my top 5 all-time but skillwise p4p he is my number one. Ali was more athletically gifted but he was more technically sound.
     
  4. MetroMan

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    Larry Holmes was a very fine champion, under-appreciated largely because he followed the great Ali. Holmes one of the better HW champs of the division's history in my opinion.
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well, how do you feel about his longetivity and number of fights?

    He's one of the most active champs if not the most active of the past few decades.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I pretty much already commented on it, or at least I think I did. I base his top 10 standing on the fact that he won 48 strait bouts, then continued his career in impressive fashion later on. His activity and longevity were quite admirable which is why I consider him an all time great. His competition was somewhat marginal in quality though. Ken Norton may very well be the best fighter he ever defeated, and he pulled it off with a very close outcome, against a declining Ken. I'm not even so sure that Holmes would have beaten the Norton of 4 years earlier.
     
  7. Rubber Warrior

    Rubber Warrior Resident ESB Soothsayer Full Member

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    I go back and forth with having him in my top five. He's usually there, but when he's not, he not far off.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Maybe no 6 ,certainly in the top 7.
     
  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    #5 for me:

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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    #9. He's grotesquely overated for similair reasons to Marciano.
     
  11. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    Marciano actually beat ATG HWs, Holmes never did :) Least wise none that were still able to fight.

    Valuev should change his name to Larry Holmes Jr. :lol:
     
  12. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so beating 42 year old moore and 38 year old walcott is legit, but beating 35 year old norton is not?
     
  13. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    Depends upon the skill level of the fighter at the various ages in question. Walcott seemed to improve with age, Moore (probably not an ATG HW) never seemed to age at all :lol: Norton slowed faster than the two aforementioned fighters, or Holmes would have lost to him... just like, perhaps, the greatest HW fighter in history did. Most ATGs seem to lose a fight or two.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nah, you should change your name to Valuev Jr, dumpling. :rofl
     
  15. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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