Your take on Haney-Lomachenko now that some time has passed?

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  1. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never managed to score it for Haney despite two rewatches. Your card?
     
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  2. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loma won clearly.
     
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  3. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Still have it Loma 7-5.
     
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  4. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Felt Loma won. It was close. Draw wouldve been acceptable. Haney win was pretty dishonest.

    Whole thing reminded me of Haney Linares where Jorge had Haney hurt BADLY twice...so much so that Haney had to literally MMA wrestle Linares in 12th round - embarassing stuff. The Loma fight felt unfair like that especially since Loma was like 30lbs lighter, shorter in height and reach, with an overall lesser body frame
     
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  5. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I have watched it a few times and I am still disgusted by the decision. I really can't find more than 4 rounds to give to Haney. Loma really beat his ass and if not for the massive size difference he would've stopped him as Haney was ready to go in the late rounds.
     
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  6. FreddieGibbs

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    7-5 Loma, can see a draw at a push
     
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  7. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Loma clearly won, 116-112 or at the closest, 115-113.

    But a boxers from foreign countries often get robbed on the scorecards in the USA. It happens so often now it's sickening.
     
  8. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had loma close but this was the fight I realized why EE fighters don’t make it big. Loma had it in the bag and took off the last round, its like the last crawford fight. Fight is close but then crawford turns it up and Madrimov only reacts to what Crawford does instead of pushing.
     
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  9. GGGfans

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    115-113 Loma seems to be the most representative score. 114-114 could have been suitable too.
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Round 1 Lomachenko 10-9

    Pretty clear Loma round, almost everything Haney threw he fell short with, nothing connected clean, including his jabs. Lomachenko however, while he landed nothing truly demonstrative, the jabs and combinations that he got off with, landed clean enough for him to take the round.

    Round 2 Lomachenko 10-9

    Again, much of what Haney is throwing, he's falling short with, the vast majority of the body shots, aside from two of them, Loma bounced just out of range for, while almost all of the left hooks, jas and rights were either caught on the forearm, blocked or parried by Loma. Whereas Loma's handful of hard clean lefts to the head and jab landed clean.

    Round 3 Lomachenko 10-9

    Very clear Loma round, he applied relentless pressure throughout, always just out of range for the sweeping hooks to the body that Haney missed with constantly, Haney again landing very few jabs or rights clean, most blocked and parried. Lomachenko landed several body shots far cleaner, and his straight hard lefts up top easily won him the round.

    Round 4 Haney 10-9, close

    Far closer than people seem to realize, while Haney edged it with body shots and jabs, more clean got through than in any other round, Loma was right with him almost every step of the way, evading most of what Haney was throwing and Loma managed to land a very heavy power jab, a few lefts and a few counters up top, when Haney got over aggressive. Still, much of what Haney is attempting to land, simply isn't finding its mark.

    Round 5 Lomachenko 10-9, close

    Haney starts the round off pretty well, landing a hook upstairs and a few body shots. Still Loma doing an effective job negating much of what is coming his way, a lot more grappling and holding from Haney. Then Loma comes roaring back, nailing him with several power jabs and combinations up top, as well as sneaky combos to the body. Neither man landed much clean in the last minute.

    Round 6 Haney 10-9, close

    3 effective body shots early from Haney, Loma fires back with a heavy straight left up top, they tie up, Haney attempts to land a few more to the body, Loma too evasive, Loma lands a series of compact one twos up the middle, prompting Haney again to hold, then attempts a few rabbit punches while it hold. Two good jabs from Haney, Loma then flies his head with a vicious left, followed by a combo. Haney with a few more jabs, then a few missed shots from both. Very close round.

    Round 7 Lomachenko 10-9

    Pretty clear Loma round, with almost everything Haney threw either being blocked, a rabbit punch, to the shoulders or to the back. Aside from a counter hook up top, from Haney, it was all Loma. Who landed the far heavier blows, with sharp one twos to the head of Haney and a few very hard eye catching straight lefts. Haney gets a few body shots in late.

    Round 8 Lomachenko 10-9

    Neither man all that effective in the 8th, both negated the others work pretty consistently, Haney landed a handful of body shots, but most of them fell short, whereas Loma's handful of head shots, one a nasty power jab, were the far more eye catching. Also Loma's jabs and counter right hooks found their mark far more than Haney's. But overall, the first half was clear for Loma, second half, near even. Therefore Loma round.

    Round 9 Lomachenko 10-9

    Another largely ineffective round for Haney, a few weak glancing body shots got through, Loma, while low output, still managed to land the cleaner shots to the head, a few hard jabs, counter hooks early, with a few lefts, a flurry and one twos later. Haney's shots are mostly bouncing off of shoulders or being blocked.

    Round 10 Lomachenko 10-9

    All things considered, a fairly quiet round, with neither man doing a hell of a lot throughout the vast majority of it, but Loma managed to stun him with a nasty one two, and then teed off for a spell, then darting in with quick straight lefts, which was more than enough to win him the round.

    Round 11 Lomachenko 10-9

    Dominant 11th, Haney barely landed a thing, Loma had him hurt and on jelly legs after he landed some savage lunging right hooks and several combinations, most one sided round of the fight.

    Round 12 Haney 10-9, close

    All in all, a fairly close round, while Loma didn't press enough early, when he did, he managed to land several sneaky lefts up top, firing back a shot every time Haney landed to the body, but Haney was just a little bit more active, and accurate, so that edged the round in his direction, but only barely.

    117-111 Lomachenko

    116-112, 115-113 are fine as well.

    1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 10, 11 were all pretty easy to score rounds, and Loma won them all fairly handily. The rest are close and could go either way.

    So while I consider 6 rounds very generous, in no possible way can you find more than 6 rounds to give to Haney, it's simply unfeasible. So if you did, you're disgustingly biased and unreasonable. That also means that anything wider than 6 rounds is a robbery. Of course people can argue, but it's close, it could go either way, therefore... not a robbery. But when finding 7 rounds to give to the fighter who won, is an impossibility, it doesn't matter how close it is. That still very much qualifies as a gift decision and an indication of corruption. Just because a match is close, that doesn't immediately invalidate talk of a robbery. The term, close but clear exists for a reason. So if 6 rounds are clearly won by one fighter, while 5 of the other 6 are razor close, for someone to find not only 7, but 8 to give to the guy who did not win 6, that qualifies as a blatant and egregious robbery.
     
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  11. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Loma got his pockets picked in americwar
    Whod have thought
    My opinion as not changed
     
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  12. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Loma clearly but this boxing.
     
  13. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The same as straight after - close fight that could have gone either way, but the champion got the nod. As far away from a robbery as it can be. I scored it 115-113 for Haney on the fight night and I was rooting for Loma.
     
  14. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    My take is that the fight was a draw and now Loma is afraid to face any real threat, flat out ducked a fight with Gervonta Davis recently, might as well just retire.
     
  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Gervonta aging out loma like floyd did pac
    Davis could have fought him few year back
    Dont give him the name
     
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