.....Your Thoughts On Aaron Pryor & The Black Bottle After 'Assault In The Ring'

Cool stuff.

Another question, although it could need very specialized knowledge. Do you have any idea how would a drug like that affect someone with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (not a severe case, and without symptoms)? Would it endanger their health dramatically?

 

Personally, I don't believe a word out of Lewis', Resto's or Curley's mouths.

Resto only came forward after he got paid to do a documentary. I think they're all crooked as ****, and we'll never know just what went down during either of those fights.

 

Did some reading on ephedrine recently, and I could definitely see how something like that could have saved Pryor. Great post MJ. We'll never know for sure, but it's always going to be the cloud hovering over an otherwise genuinely great fight.

 

I believe Resto could shed some light on what happened in the Pryor corner without being there. Follow me on this one, If he is saying that Panama Lewis did this in his corner and Panama Lewis Was Pryor's trainer as well the Pryor bout could have set a precedent for what was to come in the Collins bout. Meaning hey he tried the broncial dialator in the Pryor corner, lets do that again, it worked and take padding out of the gloves to add insurance. Panama Lewis is the worst kind of Douche Bag as far as I'm concerned. It wasn't enough to cheat with the mixed bottle he had to put Collins' life at risk as well, I can't believe the law suite got dismissed.

 

I do.


Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, for those who dont know, is an abnormal thicking of the myocardium, the muscle that comprises the heart.

The most common thicking occurs asymmetrically around the left ventricle and laterally through the aortic chambers.

This condition, with the thicken heart muscles, is the leading cause of sudden cardiac death in young athletes.

Basically, the heart becomes overmuscled, with muscle spindles that somehow are overconditioned to the point of increasing in volumized size verses increasing in intracellular mitochondrial count and small artery count.


Think of a it like a weight lifter that is too bulky.

When an young athlete has this condition, their heart can literally cramp up, and this causes near instant death, as the sudden drop in blood pressure causes unconcious, with blood supply to the brain instantly shortcircuited. The drop in blood pressure and subsequent loss of ARP production due to the demands of physical exertion force the body to shutdown=they die quite suddenly.

Think of it as driving a car at super fast speeds and the engine overheats and the fuel injector shuts off.

You are ****ed.



So to your question Carles.

An athlete with this condition may or may not have symptoms. Typical symptoms are lightheaded, shortness of breath, dizzyness. All classic pulmonary symptoms.

Taking a short acting anabolic inhibitor, it would depend on dosage, but it couled be fatal.

Realize, an athlete with the condition is having a heart problem, not a lung problem.

So taking a short acting beta antagonistic, if it suddenly elevates the heart rate and forces the the lungs to an expanded capacity, the heart would not be able to handle the increased blood volume due to spiked VO2 max and increased systolic and dystolic pressure.

It would push the athlete over the edge, potentially causing cardiac arrest.


I know why you aske me this actually.

There have a been a few cases over the last decade or so of this happening.

Mainly track athletes, specifically sprinters, they will take asthma inhaler drugs such as abuterol to boost their VO2 max for a short duration. But they have the prexisting cardiopulmonary myopathy, and the sudden increase in VO2 max and blood pressure causes sudden cardiac arrest.

 

Where the hell do you get all this? Amazing stuff.

Truth is, I asked you cause I have this condition (no symptoms except for some palpitations here and there), and I just wondered what would happen if a guy like me took such a drug.

Cool posts MJ.

 

Glad to be of help. :good

 

If someone takes money to hide the truth, it only makes sense they would take money to tell the truth.

Why else would he tell the truth now? Because he was appalled? He clearly was not as he was a crook. Like most peoiple he probably prefer being a good guy, but if there is more money in being bad he will - now if there is any idea in telling the truth then probably he will prefer this.

 

pryor came out that 13th rd with far more energy than he should have, given arguello beat him pillar to post in rd 12. that fight was pure BS, and fraud pryor should have been suspended along that jackass lewis.

 

If you watch the Pryor-Arguello fight you see a marked difference in Pryor after drinking from the infamous "other" water bottle. The person involved with this, Panama Lewis, is a proven cheater from his actions in the Resto-Collins fight.

You have information gathered by the police about Panama Lewis being in the company of known drug dealers and having a discussion about a large wager being placed on the Resto-Collins fight.

In the documentary while at a bar Lewis went to watch the Cotto-Juday fight Lewis's comments about his face to face meeting with Resto came very close to an admission of guilt. At the minimum they're comments that point to a man with something to hide from the authorities.

After watching the documentary my opinion of Lewis is even worse than before. He comes across as a very two faced thug that didn't want anything other than cash to speak his lies and keep the story cloudy.

I think the Pryor-Arguello fight will forever be tainted as a fight that cheating took place in because Pryor's corner had a known and convicted cheater.

 

Are you trolling or really just this big of an idiot?

 

VERY solid stuff MJ

 

"Panama" lewis,is a discrace to boxing....mixing water with?He is a ****ing cheater, who dosen´t care about fighters wellbeing...And when i hear him try to explain what happen,it´s a joke!
And the plastering of resto´s gloves it´s unbelieveble..

 

I just watched the documentary, it was really well done.

From the start when Resto said he was innocent, I knew he was full of **** and didnt have sympathy for him when he talked about how messed up his life has become. It wasnt until the end when he started revealing the truth is when I wasnt so mad at him anymore. Its a long road to redemption, but after 24 years he has finally taken that 1st step.

As for Pryor, all I can say is we have more legitimate evidence to prove that Pryor cheated in that fight against Alexis than we do of Margarito in his past fights pre-mosley.

 

This realy makes you think about his fights with Arguello.