Your thoughts on prospects and any future favs?....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kirk, May 19, 2008.


  1. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gamboa has too much clown in him

    Kirkland is like Jeff Lacy with less patience. :)
    Angulo is a bit slow handed but I think is boxig is underated, both Angulo and Kirkland will always earn their paycheck.
     
  2. A Rock

    A Rock SAMUEL ETO'O!!!!! Full Member

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    id say he was better than litzau or andy lee b/c of his speed but jimenez has put a few major bumps in the gamboa express
     
  3. Strike

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    I love watching Moore fight. He is not top level but gives everything and is never in a dull fight. If I can find some of his fights I will send you the links, he is a real honest, gritty pro and has been involved in some brilliant fights.
     
  4. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

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    im still convinced that julio cesar garcia is gonna do something, if only he were to come back.

    and there is a lightweight prospect out of Namibia with the weird name "paulus moses".
    he can be a belt holder and a real force at lightweight.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    The first time he was dropped was not legitimate at all. He tripped over the guy's leg after not even taking a clean punch and the dumbass ref called it a KD. Ridiculous. And no, his chin has not stood up better than Gamboa, who has yet to be hurt still, despite a flash KD when off balance in his last fight from a FLUSH shot to the temple.

    His chin has NOT been dented. He's been caught off balance with a flash shot once, which didn't hurt him at all, and he resorted to firing back like he'd been all night up to that point.

    His technique lacks because of his ego, not because of his abilities, as he has has shown fantastic technique on the pads, brilliant head movement in the ring(though not last fight as he decided to brawl it out) at times, and good countering ability. When he decides to box he is very impressive. I'm positive I've seen more of him than you have.

    That is laughable.

    What areas are those? He needs to keep his hands up and tone down the ego. That is it. Listen to his trainers a bit more.

    You're wrong. I will tell you that right now.
     
  6. Strike

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    Can't find much of Moore, but here are highlights of his war with Macklin...

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  7. superchile

    superchile Well-Known Member Full Member

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    abner mares, perro angulo,linares and yes i liked gamboa but hes still green maybe all this hipe is hurting him
     
  8. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    aaron williams....Abner Mares in my book has more respect from me than Gamboa who has over 400 fights and still has no defense....hes no Roy Jones for sure!
     
  9. freddy-wak

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    son, angulo is somebody you'll be sparring down here :bbb
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    If he was hurt, why did he pop right back up after landing on his hands(as he clearly had his wits about him even while falling) and get right back to firing? If you think he was legitimately hurt, I'll turn it right back around on you and call you a biased hater. When else was he hurt in the bout? Caught flush doesn't equal being hurt, he ate all those punches impressively.

    This is not wailing away, once again you show your complete ignorance. This is the best pad work I've seen since Floyd. Just as impressive if not more in fact.

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    As far as not applying his technique. He has shown different strengths in different fights. I explained his flaws and his need for improvements so many goddamn times I don't feel the need to go over them again with someone who simply wants to take me in circles.

    Again, I've seen more than his last fight. Watch here to see fantastic head movement and reflexes.

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    You didn't mention a dozen things. You said he needs to work on about a dozen things without mentioning them. I've given you what he needs to work on. Nothing more really. It all comes back to ego. And while I've already stated this, I'll reinforce it:

    His poise and calm in the ring is what seperates him from other head cases like Zab Judah. He has the mental abilities to succeed, along with the physical abilities. It's just a matter of maturing to the pro game all in due time, especially after a fight like the one he just had, and when he steps up the competition. Kind of like Guzman.
     
  11. pipe wrenched

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    I am really getting excited about CW prospect Aaron Williams. I love his style!! He has great movement and speed, combined with NASTY power. I will be watching this cat closely and figure him to be one of my top faves in due time.
     
  12. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Due in part to the class of the cats on the Irish scene, and also to the action style most of the guys RTE has put on their cards that were available free on the net, I still like Duddy, Matt Macklin is FUN to watch, Paul McCloskey is going to be making some waves, and even though more of a boxer than the others, Bernard Dunne keeps me looking to catch him live on a show.

    Those guys over there are putting up some good fighters on exciting shows.
     
  13. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    The one Irish guy I was hot on at first, but Manny ruined it for me with his anti-Pavlik agenda he needs to spout into a mic any chance he gets (and no, that is not fair to Lee as a fighter, but I'm just being honest).
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    Yeah no doubt mayne! But don't test me ese! Don't you know I'm loco!

    How was he hurt? The fact that he was decked does not mean he was hurt? Are you that thick? He was dropped while off balance on the ropes and got up immediately after catching himself before his ass even hit the canvas. He resumed throwing combos directly afterwards. That is NOT hurt, that is simply getting dropped with flash KD. Get a clue.

    I don't give a **** how long you've been training, you still don't know what the **** you're talking about. You've been in the gym since 11 so you know more than a 400 fight veteran who's won an Olympic Gold? I don't think so. But that's an argument for another day.

    Agreed, the case was clearly not the same with Gamboa, as his trainer would switch it up every now and then, you could see that as a few swings in there seemed to catch him on the side of the head.

    That he keeps his hands low? Hmmm, that sure does sound like the SAME GODDAMN THING I'VE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN! :patsch

    Johnson was a fantastic fighter as well, but Gamboa did have pop in his shots, a whole hell of a lot more than Floyd.

    What does keeping your hands up have to do with head movement? When Gamboa chose to keep his hands down and throw his hands with Jimenez, he would get countered once out of every 10 shots he threw, whereas when he chose to box with his hands down, throwing single shots, his head movement was quite good.

    Roy Jones's hands were low. Having textbook technique is not an absolute neccessity for being a top fighter. Not to mention, once again, that is what I myself have mentioned at least 10,000 times since the fight. He needs to work on keeping them up. He was doing so early on in the fight, but then got caught up in the moment and started doing his thing.

    When he optsd to box, as I said, he's very hard to hit clean, even with his hands down. It's when he pressures with his hands down and for little regard for the incoming that he gets tagged. His offense does not lack variety. He has shown excellent variety in his fights. Once again, this is all obviously the work of someone who has only seen one of his fights. He does go to the body, moreso in earlier fights, but he doesn't devote time to it like he should. Sue him, he's had 10 ****ing pro fights.

    Power is not a technique. And his power is fine, certainly just as good as Mares's.

    I simply mentioned a fighter some have unintelligently compared him to, is that such a crime? Do you want to whine anymore?

    I think they describe him extremely well, considering how well he dealt with the flush shots and the flash KD. And once again, he was never legitimately hurt, You're confusing being stunned with actually being hurt. I'd figure someone with the experience you claim to have would know the difference.

    The man had over 400 amateur fights, his style, while very suited for the pro game with the right adjustments, still in ways mirrors the amateur style in that regard. That's one reason he'll be very difficult to beat on points, compiled with his seemingly un-ending stamina.

    Again, he's had 10 fights. Get that through your head.
     
  15. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Gamboa is by far my favorite prospect and already one of the most exciting fighters in the world. With his style, cocky personality, and warrior mentality, we will get some amazing fights in the future.

    Daniel Jacobs is a prospect I'm excited about, even though he has not stepped up to anything past F level and hasn't proven anything yet. The MW division is extremely weak and needs someone with Jacobs' natural ability. He seems very focused and he has a good team behind him. I'm more impressed by him than I ever was by Andy Lee.

    BTW Sweet Pea, I agree with you about Abner Mares. His fight against Marchiano said everything about him. His power is very overrated (I think he's a below average puncher actually, the Gabi KO is meaningless because of the severe weight draining Gabi went through). His technical skills are solid, but nothing spectacular. His natural abilities are impressive but again, nothing spectacular. He has also shown problems with pressure fighters. I think when he steps up to a solid B level high output pressure fighter he will have an extremely tough time.