Your top 10 favorite fighters?

ok, lets have a little debate here. Prove me wrong, we will have an educated, debate, so if anyone wants to chime in, chime in. IM not racist, and im not going to say Ramshall is either. Blacks are better fighters IMO, and its a fact.

WHo is the best fighter to ever put on gloves? Or the best 2 fighters?
Most people may say one or the other

 

are we talking "fighters" or "boxers"?

 

same thing boxing is fighting. If you had to compile a list of the greatest boxers of all time since we are talkin about the sport of "Boxing". Who is the best?

 

Im not a racist one little bit,but it is strange that there do tend to be more black fighters than white,why? well i cant answer it,but in answer to your question,you'd have to say black,Ali and Tyson in there day were better than anyone

 

I wont say there is more black than white, I think its an even playing field. Ou have black fighters, white fighters, hispanic. Evry1 is mixed in their. Ok so the best are black, so that proves it. And if you want to go by division we can. And ima prove it again. And if you want to go prime 4 prime with anyone I listed on my list, ima prove it again.

 

there is a difference . . .example SRL was a "boxer". . . Hagler was a "fighter".

 

point taken

 

ok like I said be4, we are compiling a list for the sport of Boxing, this is a sport and its called boxing. Yes there are people with different style. You ahve a pure boxer, and then you have sluggers. And all variations in between. But evry1 ATG list 4 #1 and #2 are going to b black. And tell me im wrong

 

the sport of Boxing's scoring criterea favors the "boxer" . . of course "boxers" will top the list.

 

NO Ramshall my friend that is a cop out. If a brawler was wooping evry top contender ass. He would b up there as well. THe sport of Basketball the game favors more flashy players now. But yet a player like Tim Duncan when its all said and done will be high on the ATG list will he not. KG is a great PF, but yet TIM duncan if KG doesnt win any rings, will be ranked higher than him. Billy Wagner never had an overpowering fast ball in the MLB. But when its all said and done he will b high on the ATG list.

Thats just a cop out, if your style is to brawl, and you brawl effectively to W's then no matter what you will be on the list pretty high. No1 has been able 2 do that feat is why they not up there. If Miguel Cotto stays undefeated, and beats all the top contenders in teh Welterweight division, moves up and beats the top contenders at 154, 160 for arguement sake. WIns championships, you wont think he will be high on the ATG list is what you sayin. Jsut b/c he is a brawler

 

the NBA didnt used to have a shot clock. . . then they had temas hold on to the ball for looong periods of time to "shorten" the game. . . the contest would come down to the last seconds . . . thus giving the "holding" team a much better chance to win . . . Thats how guys like Spinks, Camacho, Whitaker etc box. . . they run away from their opponant (hold) . . . and shorten the game/round. This is encouraged in boxing scoring - ring generalship . . .thus an equally talented "boxer" will almost always have the advantage over the "fighter".

 

and people that do HOF votings analyze that. If you look at the best teams in the NBA of all time. All the times are post shot clock era.
LA Lakers
Boston Celtics
Chicago Bulls
San Antonio. Just to name a few
So thats no xcuse.

you still not answering my ? If for arguement sake, Cotto was to beat, SHane mosley, PBF, Paul Williams, Contron, Clottey, move up fight corey spinks, vernon forrest, move up beat jermain taylor, kelly pavilik. beat couple other fighters at those weights and win titles at teh same time, and remain undefeated. He wouldnt be high on the ATG list?
Personally I dont think ya stlye has nothin to do with that. i favor the boxer, but if there was a brawler that could accomplish such a feat then you have no choice but to rank him up there. B/c he is gettin the job done. If that so b the case like I said be4, KG would b ranked higher than TIm duncan on the ATG list for basketball. B.c the game is about excitement now. And tim duncan is fundamental.

 

Thats cause they have a choice. . . Boxing never instituted a shot clock or "punch clock" or anything like that.

Cotto will not do all that, Cotto is an offensive fighter and if he faces too many top level "boxers" he will eventually lose. I think Spinks would have a good shot at outpointing him cause of the style matchup. . . a top level "boxer" has the advantage of scroring criterea of a top level "fighter" - thats my point.

 

your ducking and dodgin the ?'s im posing Ramshall. You changing the scenerio. Answer the ? given my scenerio, If cotto was to achieve wat i said, where would he be ranked on the ATG list? B/c you kno im right is why you keep changing the scenerio and dogdin it.

 

of course "IF" Cotto beats all these guys he woulkd be up there. . . but thats a freakin fantasy. The guys that have the best chances of being effective at higher weights are "boxers" . . . scoring criterea in boxing favors their style - thats the point. We cant get around that point.