your right that is a fantasy, and like you said boxers will be mroe effective. So its not b/c its the sport of boxing is why boxers will b higher. Its mainly b/c the boxers are the ones winning. B/c if Miguel COtto accomplished that then he will sure as hell b up there on the ATG list. Has nothing to do with being a brawler or being a "boxer" its about W's and the people you are beating 4 those W's period
1. Pernell Whitaker 2. Ray Leonard 3. Shane Mosley 4. Bernard Hopkins 5. Tommy Hearns 6. Jack Dempsey 7. Evander Hoyfield 8. Ike Quartey 9. Arturo Gatti 10. Mike Tyson
its symantics. . . Boxing is the sport . . ."boxers" are more defensive minded. .. . "fighters" are more offensive minded . . ."brawlers" have almost no defense. I agree with Larry Merchant that the sport needs to evolve as othert sports have done . . . smaller rings, smaller gloves, score more to the agressor, the guy actually trying to "make the fight". This would hurt guys like SPinks, FMJ but would certainly help the sport.
10.Israel Vasquez 9.Miguel Cotto 8.Cristian Mijares 7.Kelly Pavilik 6.Juan Diaz 5.Jose Luis Castillo 4.Winky Wright 3.Jhonny Gonzalez 2.Juan Manuel Marquez 1.Rafael Marquez I have only been watching Boxing since summer 05
Listen man, I dont respect a thing that comes out of Larry Merchant mouth you know why. Is for one, he criticizes and dwonplays fighters when the fight doesnt resemble anything of Gatti and Ward. If a fighter goes in there and counterpucnhes all the way to a W he criticizes them. Until he puts on gloves and go in the ring his opinion dont mean **** 2 me. Cuz he doesnt know wat it is 2 b in there, fighting for ya life. You can die in a ring evrytimeu step in there. I give fighters props just for steppin through the ropes. He thinks evyrhtin is simple as stand and trade. And is not. The sport dont need to change, fighters need to stop selling themsekf short and learn thei craftmanship to a T. THats why you will have the RJJ, FMJ, Sweet Pea, Muhammad Ali, Bernard Hopkins of the world. and then you got people like Margarito, Hatton, Arturro Gatti's. Fighters that are good againststationary fighters, but against elusive fighters they cant deal wit it. If they would learn to brawl and box then the sport would b fine. Evry fighter can b beaten lets no 4get that. All it takes is one punch . FMJ can b beaten, but theres no1 out there right now from a skill standpoint that can do it. Is why he is still wining. Fighters need to apply themself more and learn their craft, so fights will b more competitive and not look like sparring sessions for the elite.
Merchant is not that bad. . .and I agree 100% with his view on smaller rings, smaller gloves and scoring for the agressor. Lets take RJJ for example. . . when he was on his game (offense and defense) and focused he obliterated Montell Griffin in the rematch. . . then we had too many matches where he danced, clowned and ran. Bad for the sport. Take Ali, yeah he would dance and backpeddle but he would always make a stand here and there and throw punches with bad intentions, he would go for the KO at points even against bigger/stronger comp like Frazier and Foreman - thats why I hold him in such high regard. . . he mixed it up nicely. Now look at how FMJ ran from Baldy for 12 rounds. . . pathetic.
Active fighters in no particular order: Samuel Peter Lamon Brewster Oliver McCall Alexander Povetkin Roy Jones Jr Winky Wright Mikkel Kessler Shane Mosley Miguel Cotto Manny Pacquiao
no particular order current active fighters: jmm pac cotto hopkins vasquez wlad calzaghe miranda mayorga martin castillo favorite retired fighters: duran ali tyson morales hearns hagler arguello monzon benn whitaker
Active fighters: (Not in order, and don't expect 2 c PBF or any HW in this list) Pacman (Manny) Kermit Cintrón Juanma López Ponce de León Ivan Calderón SSM (Mosely) Kelly Pavlik Andre Berto Juan Manuel Márquez Miguel Cotto
hey kirk, you left your keys here at my house...im goin to bed but i think my sis will be here....i work 2-10 today so if you want to swing by after 1 and get em you can.....hope you read this in time cause im off to bed now...