Your top 10 favourite heavyweights of all time that don’t make

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Heavyweights are tricky because they have really gotten huge and while there is diminishing return, size does matter , especially in stylistic match ups and if you're actually going to rate men from 188 or so to say 250 all time as heavyweights there should be a P4P and a H to H .. that said , guys that intrigue me ..

    I'll start w Usyk as he's current ... I feel his rematch performance against a motivated and trained Joshua was exceptional ... in my opinion that Usyk beats any Fury who's bravery and charisma greatly supersede his performances over questionable opposition ... By the time he actually fights Fury his inactivity ( two fights in three years ) and age 37 may bring him down to a sloppy decision loss in an ugly Fury lean/hugathon but no doubt Usky is/was a great fighter.

    Jack Sharkey always intrigues me. Inconsistent and a basket case, at his best in the mid the later 20's he was brave as hell and a terrific fighter .. speed, skill, chin and condition ...

    Joe Frazier, today highly underrated , without doubt a top five P4P heavyweight ... very small, sight impaired, what he accomplished as a tiny swarmer was astonishing ...

    Dempsey ... without talking it to death again he may have had the skill to be a cruiserweight version of a Duran or a Manny Paq but his inactivity post title winning victory leaves too many question marks for me ...

    More to come ..
     
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  2. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tried to patch them together in rough order:

    Floyd Patterson
    Ezzard Charles
    Max Schmeling
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    David Tua
    Riddick Bowe
    Tommy Morrison
    Michael Spinks
    Evander Holyfield
    Archie Moore

    HM: Ingemar Johansson, Cleveland Williams, Chris Byrd, Clarence Henry
     
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  3. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    difficult, but if not champion material, they are Contenders all day long...

    Farr
    JJW
    Woodcock
    Chuvalo
    Norton
    Cooney
    Carl the Truth Williams
    Jeremy Williams
    Rudduck
    Guinn
     
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  4. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These are strictly my favorites that don't make my top ten. Some of them are not even top 20, they are just fighter's I like at Heavyweight for one reason or another.

    Leon Spinks
    Michael Spinks
    Lamon Brewster
    James Toney
    Michael Moorer
    Ken Norton
    Leotis Martin
    Ezzard Charles
    Ingo
    Riddick Bowe
     
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  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Sam Langford , possibly the greatest P4P fighter that ever lived ... at 5' 6" its amazing that a man that fought prime Joe Gans and Joe Walcott was ultimately feared as at heavyweight but such was the fighter ... I see him as a better conditioned Qwai with much more two handed power ...

    Jack Johnson ... fascinating to see him brushed aside as a one trick pony that feasted on single shot punchers from the stone age which I find as accurate as the assumption that he only fought short men based on the existing Ketchel and Burns footage ... I see Johnson , with his exceptional ring IQ, speed, natural strength, timing and conditioning in the forefront of fighters like Whitaker, Hopkins, Mayweather and Ward, men that knew how to move in-between gears and made other looks look lost. A very rare exceptional athlete that would have been exceptional in any era ...
     
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I agree. And while I am a big admirer of his, I am not necessarily a big fan of his style. I do rank him as the greatest light heavyweight of all time.
     
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  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Awesome. It must have been fun to meet Earnie. I envy you.
     
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  8. Paul McB

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    He used to work on the door of a nightclub in Liverpool, usually wearing a white tuxedo. I’d go and have a chat with him, did so a few times. I doubt most people had any idea who he was, or what it would mean to be on the end of that right hand (!)
     
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  9. Paul McB

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    I nearly picked Dokes and Bert Cooper too….loved Coopers brawl with Moorer and his demolition of Cecil Coffee. And same on Dokes…I thought he could’ve achieved so much more, always good to watch.
     
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  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Awesome, was this a rough area of Liverpool or a more posh one? I think it would be foolish for people to pick a fight with an old man thinking it would be easy.
     
  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I got to have lunch with Earnie several years ago. He was passing through and was going with a group and I got a call to come join. His fist was the size of a sledgehammer and I’m 100% sure he could have taken me with one shot even at his age.
     
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    Paul McB Member Full Member

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    It was in the city center, not rough but plenty of weekend revellers.
     
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  13. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some of these names I see make top tens most often than not. Dempsey or Johnson are mostly found there.
     
  14. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I meant your specific top 10. So each posters own top 10.
     
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    Top 10 in no order Louis, Johnson, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, Marciano, Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson.

    Liston
    Patterson
    Dempsey
    Langford
    Vitali
    Norton
    Quarry
    Ruddock
    Morrison
    Tua