Your top 10 greatest Heavyweight of all time?

1= ali
2= louis
3= holmes
4= lewis
5= marciano
6= tyson
7= tunney
8= foreman
9= dempsey
10= frazier

 

Lewis
Ali

or

Ali
Lewis

and the rest don't matter.

 

#tryingwaytoohard

 

very nice list and good grouping, though I think Patterson is well outside such lists. Winning titles is one thing, but being able to sustain them consistantly among the true top men is quite another thing and Paterson would lose to all above regularly and many more in the HWs long history!

 

This was not a H2H list, but real life....if it were Hypothetical Frazier would have been #1, as only Foreman and Liston stand a chance with 69 Frazier!

Back to Patterson, he certainly is a top 25 likely top 20 potentially/arguably top 15 ATG based on accomplishment.

 

On any given night, any of the greats could have beaten each other.

If there was a league table, at the end of every season, Ali would have the most points and win first place.

Ali, win lose or draw would make a fight out of it everytime

Whereas the others have shown vulnerabilities which could/would cost them against certain fighters

Lewis chin, Tysons mindset just relying on one punch, Holyfields addiction to brawling, Wlads chin, Holmes weakness for the right hand, Bowes eating habits etc.

 

Well, I'll have to think about my current One-thru-Ten -- I'm sure it will include Sullivan, Jeffries, Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Ali, and Holmes.

I picked Ali as #1 in the poll, even though Louis is a plausible choice as well as being my favorite boxer.

 

It is amazing that Ali is talked about as having possibly the fewest weaknesses H2H & is easily #1, & I voted for him too. When he was the LEAST complete in terms of overall skills. Tell me what I foget: basic skills likecould not block or parry & leaned back from punches, could/did not fight on the inside, almost never went to the body/headhunter without great power, fairly fragile hands, vulnerable to a great counter-puncher & the left hook...

It goes to show that the whole is sometimes greater than the sum of its parts.

 

The Baker's Dozen

1 - Joe Louis
2 - Muhammad Ali
3 - Larry Holmes
4 - Jack Johnson
5 - Rocky Marciano
6 - Mike Tyson
7 - Lennox Lewis
8 - George Foreman
9 - Jack Dempsey
10 - Joe Frazier
11 - Evander Holyfield
12 - Sonny Liston
13 - Jim Jeffries

 

Sam Langford anybody?

 

1. louis
2. Lewis
3. Ali
4. Wladimir
5. Holmes
6. Jack Johnson
7. Holyfield
8. Tyson
9. Foreman
10. Vitali

 

Ali
Holmes
Lewis
Louis
Foreman
Frazier
Holyfield
Marciano
Tyson
V. Klitschko

 

Legacy, i.e. resume, which includes quality wins vs losses, performance in fights, dominance over era, championship record, import to boxing and societal impact. A the end of the day, my ATG list can usually be broken into best of an era, followed by second best of an era, followed by third best of an era:

1. Ali (or sometimes Louis)
2. Louis (or sometimes I prefer Ali here)
3. Marciano
4. Dempsey
5. Lewis
6. Sullivan
7. Vitali K
8. Foreman
9. Jack Johnson
10. Holmes
11. Wlad K
12. Tyson
13 Frazier
14. Tunney
15. Jeffries
16. Schmeling
17. Corbett
18. Holyfield
19 E Charles
20 JJ Walcott
21 Patterson
22. Bowe
23 Liston
24 Norton
25 Max Baer
26 Tommy Burns
27 Ingmar Johanson
28 Sharkey
29 Willard
30 Rahman
31 JJ Braddock
32 Peter
33 Archie Moore
34 Sanders
35 Henry Cooper
36 Luis Firpo
37 Mercer
38 Byrd
39 Conn
40 Jimmy Ellis

 

1. Rocky Marciano
2. Jack Dempsey
3. Jack Johnson
4. Joe Louis
5. Muhammad Ali
6. Sonny Liston
7. Larry Holmes
8. George Foreman
9. Mike Tyson
10. Ezzard Charles
11. Jersey Joe Walcott
12. Lennox Lewis
13. Evander Holyfield
14. Riddick Bowe
15. Gene Tunney
16. Smokin Joe Frazier
17. Vladimir Klitschko
18. John L Sullivan
19. Michael Spinks
20. Jim Corbett

 

I will leave out the name calling and insults.....why are you here? Most people have come to the "classic" forum to discuss the history of boxing and how it has evolved through the years. Most of us discuss and debate and have varied opinions and every once in a while a heated exchange occurs....But you have no respect for pre 60 (Likely pre-80) boxing...and honestly that is fine...to each their own....but there is a forum called "boxing forum" (referred to here as general) where modern boxing is the topic....If you don't care about, take serious the past...why are you here?

Personally I don't care either way...the only problem you cause me is having to scroll another 3-4 inches (numbers that are likely familiar to you) to get to a relevant post...Not majorly concerned...just curious?