Your top 10 heavyweight list, with a twist!

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Your top 10 heavyweight list, with a twist.

    You must disregard every fight that has taken place after the Fight of the Century in 1971.

    Many people have been critical of Nat Fleischer’s top 10 heavyweight list. Although he had written it some years earlier, he declined to update it after the FOTC. So I am asking you what his list should have been at the last time he would have been able to update it. To be fair to Fleischer, you must be very disciplined in ignoring any knowledge you have of fights after this date.

    If you want a bonus task, then you may also attempt to name the best from each of the traditional weight classes, at that date. In Fleischer’s case:

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  2. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis
    Frazier
    Dempsey
    Ali
    Johnson
    Marciano
    Tunney
    Liston
    Charles
    Jeffries
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Hmmm...

    01 - Joe Louis
    02 - Rocky Marciano
    03 - Jack Johnson
    04 - Jim Jeffries
    05 - Joe Frazier
    06 - Muhammad Ali
    07 - Harry Wills
    08 - Jack Dempsey
    09 - Sonny Liston
    10 - Sam Langford
     
  4. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    louis
    marciano
    frazier
    johnson
    dempsey
    ali
    jeffries
    tunney
    liston
    fitz

    oh and....
    Louis
    greb
    greb
    robinson
    gans
    armstrong
    oliveres
    wilde
     
  5. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Louis
    Marciano
    Dempsey
    Frazier
    Walcott
    Johnson Jeffries
    Schmeling
    Tunney
    Ali
    Langford
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    01 Joe Louis
    02 Marciano
    03 Frazier
    04 Johnson
    05 Dempsey
    06 Jeffries
    07 Ali
    08 Liston
    09 Schmeling
    10 Walcott
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    That means Holmes, Foreman, Tyson, Bowe, Lewis and the Klitschko's are out.

    It also means Ali is undefeated and takes away Frazier's best. Many of the smaller heavies don't have to worry about skilled super heavyweights either.

    You get a very different list. By the way Nat Fleischer had an article after Frazier beat Ali saying he was not an all time top ten great. At that point in time, he has a good case.
     
  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    1.Joe Louis
    2.Muhammad Ali
    3.Joe Frazier
    4.Sonny Liston
    5.Jack Dempsey
    6.Gene Tunney
    7.Max Baer
    8.Max Schmeling
    9.Fred Fulton
    10.Harry Wills
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Boxing News did its top 10 after the Fight of the Century actually. The top 5 was still the same top 5 that seemed almost universal until the 80s: Louis, Johnson, Marciano, Dempsey, Ali (but not in the same order). Frazier was 6th. I'd probably agree with that as a Top 6 but with Dempsey lower.
     
  10. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    OP says after FOTC
     
  11. OldSchool Rules

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    1. Louis
    2. Jeffries
    3. Johnson
    4. Marciano
    5. Tunney
    6. Ali
    7. Dempsey
    8. Langford
    9. Liston
    10. Walcott
     
  12. jdr

    jdr Guest

    No smokin joe even after he beat Ali
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    That would prety much have been my top four then.

    Order might have been slightly different,but those would be the four.