Your top 10 Mexican fighters In order please

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  1. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Based on skill !!
    Not popularity or resume. Just pure skill. In order please
     
  2. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oliveras and Zarate are two.
     
  3. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    In random order.
    Canto
    Ortiz
    Marquez
    Olivares
    Chavez
    Barrera
    Saldivar
    Morales
    Lopez
    Zarate
    Canto and Lopez for skills are joint no1.

    Honourable mention
    Arizmendi,Pimental,Medel,Castillo,Pintor.
    Missed out Sanchez:oops: Drop out Morales.
     
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  5. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    El Finito #1

    And not to go off topic really unimpressed with Canelo. Fool's gold. Thought Lara deserved no worse than a draw and maybe shaded it. I know he is young but he needs fighters who come to him. Doubt he ever cracks this top ten list.
     
  6. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love the Mexican warriors !
    On the basis of skill and longevity, there was no one better than Manuel Ortiz...
    And let us not forget arguably the hardest punching lightweight ever Aurelio Herrera !
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Thanks mcvey could I get them in strict order please?
     
  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Thanks for keeping them in order Green man. I had to edit my post to please include that.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    10 - Castillo
    09 - Barrera
    08 - Morales
    07 - Marquez
    06 - Canto
    05 - Zarate
    04 - Saldivar
    03 - Sanchez
    02 - Olivares
    01 - Chavez

    Only fighters who were born in Mexico were included.
     
  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Great list.can u please explain why u place Morales ahead of Barrera based on skill set?
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Part of Erik’s problem with Barrera was the difference in speed. Marco Antonio is quicker and so in a round where neither man excels themselves or momentarily overpowers the other the only way for Morales to win the round is to outwork an opponent who is an excellent counterpuncher and works well with angles. In other words, Barrera’s superior versatility made life hard for Morales, who was working at a slight style deficit.

    But in the second fight I thought Barrera showed some tactical naivety, going away jabbing, taking the wrong range. Yes, he was more versatile but that versatility was not always put to the perfect use and it gave Morales space to box his fight here. In the tenth round of this fight Morales perfected his thinking aggressor’s offense for three breathtaking minutes in which he dominated with three different styles, arguably the highest level either of these men reached in the ring, stopping a rush by Barrera on the scorecards. I came away from these first two fights with the strange impression that Barrera had more but that Morales knew better what to do with what he had. This impression was confirmed for me by their respective go-rounds with the great Manny Pacquiao. Morales did not just beat Pacquiao, he told us before the fight exactly how he was going to do it, mixing boxing and punching to produce the “intelligent fight” he needed to defeat the Filipino. In the build-up, Freddie Roach spoke endlessly of “the Manilla Ice”, his nickname for Pacquiao’s newly included right hand, the final piece of the puzzle in making Manny the complete fighter. Prime-for-prime, Morales bested the Filipino.

    At their respective bests each was a wonderful talent that probably failed to distinguish one from the other, but whilst Morales was beaten only by Barrera, Barrera himself lost to stop-start herky-jerky stylings of Junior Jones in their 1997 contest. Outboxed and, bizarrely out-dogged, Barrera not for the last time seemed a tiny bit confused by his own possibilities.
     
  12. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That tenth spot is up for grabs. Lopez, Chiquita Gonzalez, Roman. There's a list.

    Also I assume that it's Chucho and not Jose Luis.
     
  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    thank u for Ur excellent post. Although I still rate MAB as the better all around fighter I really respect and appreciate your response
     
  14. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    10 Erik Morales
    9 Vicente Saldivar
    8 Lupe Pintor
    7 Salvador Sanchez
    6 Marco Antonio Barrera
    5 Jose Napoles (Adopted Mexico as his own country; Cuban by birth)
    4 Ricardo Lopez
    3 Ruben Olivares
    2 Carlos Zarate
    1 Julio Cesar Chavez

    Mentions to: Humberto Gonzales, Miguel Canto, Rodolfo Martinez, Alfonso Zamora, Daniel Zaragoza, Joe Rivers, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Manuel Medina, Rafael Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez and Jose Luis Castillo.
     
  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    T Booz ..no JMM ? How come?