***Your top 15 ATG Heavyweights***

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhamad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Lennox Lewis
5. George Foreman
6. Evander Holyfield
7. Mike Tyson
8. Jack Johnson
9. Joe Fraizer
10. Sonny Liston
11. Rocky Marciano
12.Jack Dempsey
13.Wladimir Klitschko

My top 13

 

Couldn't have said it better

Good to know there are other Lennox Lewis-haters on board.:good

 

I hate the fact that people look at fighters like Lewis and Marciano, who spent careers fighting jaded boxers...and rate them so highly...its pathetic. the only win Lewis had that I rate, was against Tua.

as for rocky marciano, i concur with larry holmes:

'rocky marcianaa cudnt carry ma jockstrap'

 

Lol!

You got to feel sorry for people's boxing knowledge and how braindead they are when they say Lewis is Glass-Jawed. Knocked down twice in his whole 46 fight career.

 

Where are Jeffries and Wills on your list anarci? You got a range for them? Would they make your top 20?

 

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Tyson
4. Marciano
5. Lewis
6. Liston
7. Holmes
8. Foreman
9. Frazier
10. Holyfield
11. Wills
12. Johnson
13. Dempsey
14. Jeffries
15. Langford

50 percent head to head and 50 percent resume.

 

let me correct you

knocked DOWN twice yes...

but also knocked OUT both times he was knocked down atsch

chinny? NO WAY...WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE SUGGEST THAT

 

Anyone who has Tyson at #15 behind a chump like Vlad is not to be taken seriously.

1. Ali
2. Johnson
3. Louis
4. Tyson
5. Lewis
6. Holmes
7. Holyfield
8. Foreman
9. Liston
10. Marciano
11. Demsey

The Klits sister make my top 20s list, starting at, 22 & 23

 

I don´t understand these ATG lists.
I mean you can´t compare guys like Fitzsimmons or Dempsey to the guys today.
Most of the oldies don´t even have fights recorded. They had other rules, the fight lasted as long till the loser is not able to get up anymore, some of them would be considered light heavies or cruisers,etc etc.
ONLY IN MY OPINION there is a need of seperation between the eras.
IN MY OPINION the modern boxing era that can be compared to the era today begins just short before the sixties, beginning with Floyd Patterson.
Thats just my opinion

 

I like Lewis but the Tyson Lewis beat was a walking dead man who was years away from his prime...Prime Lewis against prime Tyson....Tyson KO inside 3...Lewis had all he could handle against Ray Mercer who was a good pressure fighter but nowhere near the skills nor speed of prime Tyson...A 1988 Tyson version would have murdered Lewis in any era or prime...

 

Look at the number on noted-punchers he went in against and took shots from. Klitschko, Tyson, Tua, Ruddock, Morrison, Mercer, Rahman, McCall, Briggs, Bruno etc. And two stoppages losses, once pre-primed when he got caught with a good shot and wasn't allowed to continue, and the other when he was out-of-shape, disinterested and had been ****ing about filming Ocean's Eleven rather than training.

 

You are talking about arguably a pre-prime version of Lennox though, and one below-par performance. It's like me saying performance against Larry Sims. That was a below-par performance 3 years before Tyson's prime, just like Mercer was 3 year's before Lewis'.

 

Jeffries is just outside 15 in fact you can make a case for him being in the top 15, but no way top 10. As for WIllis:huh Ive always had a hard time ranking him he certainly got the best over the great(but much smaller)Langford in their many fights,and went to war with many of the other top black fighters of his era. ITs not his fault but i would have liked to see him fight the other big names that were champs or got title shots, unfortunately that didnt come till the end. I wouldnt argue if you had him on or off your top 15 list. Hes definitely top 20.

 

I agree but it was just an example....But still...Prime Mike knocks prime Lewis without any problems...