Your Top 15 middleweights of all time

hopkins ? no. definitely. should i remind you his debut fight , his 2 losses to taylor (twice did as bad as cory spinks who was stopped by zab judah , and worse than wright) , his cheating against wright , his cherrypicking of a drained tarver , and smaller men such as :
simon brown , wright , delahoya , trinidad , pavlik , ornelas .
his being one of the dirtiest fighters ever : pushing , butting , clinching , whatever you like , steroids . i am sure there are more that i do not know.
hopkins is the most overrated fighter of recent years along with kessler and taylor (at least until 2 years ago)

 

Are you ever going to **** off?

 

1. Hagler
2. Monzon
3. Robinson
4. Greb
5. Walker
6. Ketchel
7. Hopkins
8. LaMotta
9. Tiger
10. Jones
11. Zale
12. Cerdan
13. Giardello
14. Valdez
15. Toney

 

As much of a fan as I am, can't see Toney making the top 15:huh

 

but you can see hopkins ? is it a proof of your great boxing knowledge ?
hopkins would have beaten toney , right ? and fought the better opposition. and he even fights cleaner.

 

Can't see how Jones ranks over Zale, Cerdan, Giardello and Valdez. He wasn't even a proper champ, just a belt holder.

 

:rofl

 

Suggest you all read up on what Lloyd Marshall did to Jake Lamotta.

 

Flea, that's such a badass pic of Foreman in your avater...one of the best of him.

 

Joey Giardello was indeed a great fighter...an old master if there ever was one..list or no list.

 

Read the book , he escapes onto the ice. :rofl

 

1. Marvellous Marvin Hagler
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Jake LaMotta
6. Marcel Cerdan
7. Mike McCallum
8. Randolph Turpin
9. Dick Tiger
10. Stanley Ketchel

I don't include fighters where there is little or no film footage of them e,g Greb, Langford, Walker etc