Your top 3 most underrated fighters

Generally money is the issue but some people literally get addicted to boxing. I believe Archie Moore had that problem

 

Muhammad had no defensive skill he would have been caughht often by Spinks, Minter stated even if he tried to box Hagler instead of going after him he would have lost and that Hagler was something else in terms of ability, so it didn`t matter that it was late in his career, he was out of his depth.

 

Fans forget LaMotta was outjabbing Robi for most of their final infamous bout, Robi even admitted that on a program sitting next to LaMotta called the way it was.

 

Just thought of another 3


1. Kid Gavalin
2. Maxie Rosenbloom
3. Jimmy Wilde

 

Carlos Ortiz
Sandy Saddler
Barney Ross
These come to mind first

 

He went 15 with Marciano and was only KO'ed 7 times with 3 past his prime.

He also faced some brutal punchers, I don't who called him Chinny Charles but I'd like educate them

 

Mark I love how you act like these things according to you are set in stone....In a fight nothing is set in stone

 

Glen Johnson comes to mind. Win, lose or Draw he was a handful for Jones, Tarver, Ottke, Woods, Gonzalez, Dawson, Griffin, Froch, Cloud, Green and Hopkins. The guy fought well against all of the top guys from 160 to 175 in the 90' and 2000's. Got robbed multiple times and nobody ever blew him away.

 

Fighting Harada. As I said the other day, if Pep hadn't ballsed up (or just browned his pants in front of the hostile, pro-Famechon crowd in Sydney), Harada would have become the first man in history to complete the treble of Flyweight, Bantamweight and Featherweight champion. Wins over Kingpetch, Medel, an unbeaten Jofre, Rudkin, Caraballo etc. The guy is a genuine, elite-level pound for pound great (has a top fifty claim), yet never seems to be mentioned as such.

Wes Ramey. The Lightweight champions of his day wanted no part of Ramey at all. Ramey outscored Tony Canzoneri (a genuine all-time great in his own right) in a non-title bout in 1933 - when Canzoneri was offered a title defence against Ramey, he refused it, along with a $25,000 purse, an enormous sum of money for a title defence outside of the Heavyweight division at the time. Lou Ambers, too, was a brilliant 135 lb champ, but he found every reason not to defend against Ramey; when Ambers finally was dethroned, it was by the hard-punching Lew Jenkins....Who Ramey had already beaten twice! Ramey also accounted for world champions such as Jadick, Bass, Rodack and Battling Shaw. There were some amazing Lightweights around during the thirties, yet so many people don't know about Ramey - only instead about his victims!

Maybe Jeff Fenech, too. Robbed of what would have been his defining victory against a legend in Nelson in 1991, which should have made him the first man to win world titles in four divisions without having ever tasted defeat. Alas, the injustice of that fraudulent draw, chronic hand injuries and the accumulated wear and tear of his all-action style seemed to really take something out of him, and he hit a devastating decline in 1992, looking washed up at just twenty-eight. A lot of his alphabet title wins might have seemed average at the time, but many of his victims went on to win titles and compete at a high level for a long time after Fenech beat them, such as Zaragoza, Richardson and Villasana. He was the only man to ever stop Victor Callejas, and flattened Samart Payakaroon when there was a big buzz around him. All he's missing is a bonafide, elite great on his record - but for all intents and purposes, he achieved that against Nelson, although I accept that Zoomy's apparent illness beforehand may have been a mitigating factor, especially when you consider how he annihilated Fenech in their return.

Also, I think people underrate how good Fenech was technically. Yes, he was no slickster - but he had good hand speed, great movement coming in low, astonishing inside fighting skills, good punch variety and accuracy (he didn't just waste punches for the sake of it), was durable once he'd made it past the early rounds and, most of all, had a phenomenal engine. The sheer pace he was able to maintain over long fights was incredible. The Villasana fight is absolutely mental.

 

I wonder if he's related to the guy Rummy mentioned who claimed Archie Moore was featherfisted.

 

Probably

 

Sumbu Kalambay
Marlon Starling
Alberto Davila

 

Has anyone mentioned Rocky Lockridge. If he gotten the nod in those close fights against Pedroza , Gomez, or Chavez we would be talking a top 50 ATG

 

Valuev

 

Well at the very least David Haye appreciates this and will agree with you