Your Top 5 P4P Duckers In Boxing 1990-Current

time · Jan 16, 2010

Calzaghe did play it too safe but he did agree to fight hopkins years ago and hopkins turned around and demanded twice the fee so that obviously sank the fight

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/7078050.stm

Jackolythe · Jan 16, 2010

Uhhh... Felix Sturm anyone?

truewarrior · Jan 16, 2010

bladerunner said: ↑

Fraud the coward.
Chavez Jr
Jorge Linares
Valero
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Thank You!
Not everyone knows the guy but quite frankly because hes been ducking high opossition and has been living off of a win over a shot Larios. Now that he was destroyed by a cab driver he says hes going back to the bottom....even lower? :yep

cubex · Jan 16, 2010

Jackolythe said: ↑

Uhhh... Felix Sturm anyone?
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He did clearly duck Abraham but other than that who?

1 duck doesn't justify a top 5 ranking.

pauliemayweathe · Jan 16, 2010

1 Hitta Quitta said: ↑

1. Joe Calzaghe - A whole career full of carefully selected fights. 95 percent of them not in the U.S. The most balls he ever showed was fighting Mikkel Kessler and Jeff Lacy. Those are his two biggest accomplishments. Both were undefeated therefore he showed some guts by fighting them but they both turned out not to be top-tier fighters by any stretch. Mikkel Kessler will lose to anyone who can box at all...mark my words on that. Jeff Lacy lost to a shell of RJJ and barely got by Manfredo. Wouldnt fight RJJ in his prime, wouldnt fight B-Hop in his prime, and so and so in their prime and on and on and on. Biggest ducker of this era.

2. Floyd Mayweather - I wanted but cant put him as number one because he didn't do it obviously for his whole career. Funny thing is if you type "ducking/duckers in boxing" the whole first page will be about nothing but Floyd Mayweather lol so I kind of feel like I should have gave him number 1. However, Floyd in his earlier days fought Corrales and Castillo which earns him some favor with me. However his calculated selections of smaller and older men as competition recently definitely makes him a contender for 1 p4p ducker.

3. Prince Naseem Hamed - Another European boxer with a fabricated record. He came to America and beat Kevin Kelly which I guess should stand for something but its what he did afterwords that makes me call him a ducker. He comes here with all this hype and this great record(against bums) beats Kevin Kelly who is a legitimate contender for just about anybody and then what does he do? Fights nothing but bull**** fights until he fight Barrera and gets exposed as a fraud. He goes home, beats another no name and quits. Wow, what a circus act!

4.Roy Jones - Not as obvious as the three fighters above but he definitely was cherry picking fighters once he became "the man" for much longer than people remember. I would say from about 1996 to around when he went up to Heavyweight he was definitely cherry picking obviously thats like 8 years of his career or so. In his earlier years he beat Toney and Hopkins so two thumbs up. Afterwords he doesn't fight Hopkins for a rematch when Hopkins is the man. Calzaghe doesn't fight him and he doesn't fight Calzaghe(strikes against both of them). Finally he gets beaten by the not all that great Antonio Tarver and the even less not all that great Johnson. Both exposed his jaw was never that great and he relied completely on speed to be that good.

5. Bernard Hopkins - Was done the most subtle of all the fighters listed. After he became a reigning champ he did 2 things that stood out to me as ducker. First he stays at his division and never moves up although there were mega-fights that could have happened both up and down. Actually he never goes up until he fights Tarver but before that when he mattered he only goes down or stays at his weight. Now I will say this, after his destruction of the much smaller DLH(cough cough) and after he lost to Taylor twice he has been more willing to fight whoever later in his career. He definitely isnt a full fledged ducker but he has definitely shown hints throughout his career although many might disagree.
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What is the most balls you have ever shown??? None of these guys DUCK anyone....they fight to get paid

Daft P · Jan 16, 2010

I absolutely disagree with every singe part of your list. Calzaghe was a ducker but certainly not the biggest one and you seem to forget that he beat B-Hop, who after that went on the school Pavlik (p4p top10 at the time and heavy favourite).

B-Hop as a ducker?... atsch Even without his wins against Tarver, Pavlik or Oscar, the fact that he faced an undefeated prime p4p no. 1. Trinidad is IN ITSELF enough not to consider him a ducker. Not to mention that he stopped Tito in the end.

However, after his "performance" last year, David Haye belongs to ATG duckers for sure.

If you make a list like that, please give me at least 4 or 5 names the fighters you mentioned "ducked".

I am thinking seriously who might deserve the first spot...

Atlanta · Jan 16, 2010

better title of this thread:

Boxers I don't like.

pretty boy · Jan 16, 2010

floyd and b-hopwtf the fuk. People may say floyd ducks fighters while he has fought great names while there are other fighters who shud be in therebefore anyone. e.g felix sturm, mikkel kessler, and most fighters from europe.

COLD-HARD-TRUTH · Jan 16, 2010

1 Hitta Quitta said: ↑

1. Joe Calzaghe - A whole career full of carefully selected fights. 95 percent of them not in the U.S. The most balls he ever showed was fighting Mikkel Kessler and Jeff Lacy. Those are his two biggest accomplishments. Both were undefeated therefore he showed some guts by fighting them but they both turned out not to be top-tier fighters by any stretch. Mikkel Kessler will lose to anyone who can box at all...mark my words on that. Jeff Lacy lost to a shell of RJJ and barely got by Manfredo. Wouldnt fight RJJ in his prime, wouldnt fight B-Hop in his prime, and so and so in their prime and on and on and on. Biggest ducker of this era.

2. Floyd Mayweather - I wanted but cant put him as number one because he didn't do it obviously for his whole career. Funny thing is if you type "ducking/duckers in boxing" the whole first page will be about nothing but Floyd Mayweather lol so I kind of feel like I should have gave him number 1. However, Floyd in his earlier days fought Corrales and Castillo which earns him some favor with me. However his calculated selections of smaller and older men as competition recently definitely makes him a contender for 1 p4p ducker.

3. Prince Naseem Hamed - Another European boxer with a fabricated record. He came to America and beat Kevin Kelly which I guess should stand for something but its what he did afterwords that makes me call him a ducker. He comes here with all this hype and this great record(against bums) beats Kevin Kelly who is a legitimate contender for just about anybody and then what does he do? Fights nothing but bull**** fights until he fight Barrera and gets exposed as a fraud. He goes home, beats another no name and quits. Wow, what a circus act!

4.Roy Jones - Not as obvious as the three fighters above but he definitely was cherry picking fighters once he became "the man" for much longer than people remember. I would say from about 1996 to around when he went up to Heavyweight he was definitely cherry picking obviously thats like 8 years of his career or so. In his earlier years he beat Toney and Hopkins so two thumbs up. Afterwords he doesn't fight Hopkins for a rematch when Hopkins is the man. Calzaghe doesn't fight him and he doesn't fight Calzaghe(strikes against both of them). Finally he gets beaten by the not all that great Antonio Tarver and the even less not all that great Johnson. Both exposed his jaw was never that great and he relied completely on speed to be that good.

5. Bernard Hopkins - Was done the most subtle of all the fighters listed. After he became a reigning champ he did 2 things that stood out to me as ducker. First he stays at his division and never moves up although there were mega-fights that could have happened both up and down. Actually he never goes up until he fights Tarver but before that when he mattered he only goes down or stays at his weight. Now I will say this, after his destruction of the much smaller DLH(cough cough) and after he lost to Taylor twice he has been more willing to fight whoever later in his career. He definitely isnt a full fledged ducker but he has definitely shown hints throughout his career although many might disagree.
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Hmmmm.....don't understand what Hopkins is doing on this list at all....you lost me on that.....and Floyd has long supplanted Calzaghe at #1. Here's my list:

1. Floyd Mayweather....his resume since JML and COrrales speaks for itself. Unprecented amount of ducking and dodging of top contnders in HIS WEIGHT CLASS!!!! GOAT MY ASS!
2. Nassem Hamed: Finally fought a legit, prime champion in Barrera and got destroyed...than retired.
3. Calzaghe: Spent majority of his career fighting soft Euro competition....but redeemed himself somewhat with wins over Lacy and Kessler...dessrves some credit for win over Hopkins, but none for Jones.
4. Roy Jones: At least he took a risk by beating Ruiz at heavyweight and came down and drained himself to make 175 to fight Tarver the next fight...Tarver was the number 1 guy at 175 at the time.
5. David Haye: I was excited about Haye's move to Heavyweight a year ago...but the crap he pulled with the "back injury" and than pulling out against Vitali to fight Valuev places him in my top 5. If he ever fights a Klitchko or even Arreola I'd be suprised.

Beebs · Jan 16, 2010

Axe said: ↑

Calzaghe is a ducking fraud.

FACT
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Yea he really ducked Hopkins by signing the contract and then backing out...oh wait, that was the ****** who would "never lose to a white boy" and thinks Australia is in Europe.

Atlanta · Jan 16, 2010

1 Hitta Quitta said: ↑

1. Joe Calzaghe - Mikkel Kessler, Jeff Lacy, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr., Chris Eubank. Could he have done better, sure but he isn't a top 5 ducker
2. Floyd Mayweather - Your hatred is blinding, Gernaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Diego Corralles, Demarcus Correly, Phillip N'dou, Jose Luis Castillo(2), Oscar De La Hoya, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, and Arturo Gatti. Yeah that is a list of a ducker, ******.

3. Prince Naseem Hamed - Kevin Kelly, Wilfredo Vazquez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Caesar Soto, Remigio Molina, Tom Johnson.

4.Roy Jones - Yeah, a legendary ducker.... NOT! James Toney, John Ruiz, Bernard Hopkins, Glenn Kelly, Antonio Tarver(3), Glen Johnson, Joe Calzaghe, Danny Green, Reggie Johnson.

5. Bernard Hopkins - Segundo Mercado(2), Roy Jones Jr, Joe Calzaghe, Tito Trinidad, Glen Johnson, Jermaine Taylor(2), Kelly Pavlik, Antonio Tarver, Winky Wright, Howard Eastman.
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I've figured one thing out, you're ****ing stupid

Big Left · Jan 16, 2010

Who did Calzaghe duck again? I remember Hopkins ducking him in 2002 but I am pretty sure he cleaned out his divison.

The idea that a fighter who does not fight in American is a ducker is a joke.

1 Hitta Quitta · Jan 16, 2010

pauliemayweathe said: ↑

What is the most balls you have ever shown??? None of these guys DUCK anyone....they fight to get paid
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Look mr. sensitive, this is boxing..its a warriors sport. Do you fight? Have you ever? I mean boxed or fought in a competition for little or no money? If you haven't please shut the **** up. You want respect in this sport you have to fight for it and earn it, money cant buy respect...go out in the world and you will see it cant be bought.

Daft P said: ↑

I absolutely disagree with every singe part of your list. Calzaghe was a ducker but certainly not the biggest one and you seem to forget that he beat B-Hop, who after that went on the school Pavlik (p4p top10 at the time and heavy favourite).

B-Hop as a ducker?... atsch Even without his wins against Tarver, Pavlik or Oscar, the fact that he faced an undefeated prime p4p no. 1. Trinidad is IN ITSELF enough not to consider him a ducker. Not to mention that he stopped Tito in the end.

However, after his "performance" last year, David Haye belongs to ATG duckers for sure.

If you make a list like that, please give me at least 4 or 5 names the fighters you mentioned "ducked".

I am thinking seriously who might deserve the first spot...
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No I think some of guys are misinterpreting what I meant when I put B-Hop on that list. Go re-read, I said for a period of his career he had the opportunity to make some mega fights happen by going up or reaching out and instead he was cherry picking smaller guys with big names. There are ppl in this thread saying he turned down a fight with Calzaghe, I believe that's possible, even though its more likely that Calzaghe ducked considering his resume.

Atlanta said: ↑

better title of this thread:

Boxers I don't like.
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Better title of your response.

Defending fighters I like.

Atlanta said: ↑

I've figured one thing out, you're ****ing stupid
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Well it doesnt take a genius to figure out your from the *** capitol of the world. I didnt know the gays were in to boxing. Learn something new everyday :thumbsup

Babality · Jan 16, 2010

1- Floyd "Donald" Mayweather
2- JCC Jr

Atlanta · Jan 16, 2010

1 Hitta Quitta said: ↑

Look mr. sensitive, this is boxing..its a warriors sport. Do you fight? Have you ever? I mean boxed or fought in a competition for little or no money? If you haven't please shut the **** up. You want respect in this sport you have to fight for it and earn it, money cant buy respect...go out in the world and you will see it cant be bought.

No I think some of guys are misinterpreting what I meant when I put B-Hop on that list. Go re-read, I said for a period of his career he had the opportunity to make some mega fights happen by going up or reaching out and instead he was cherry picking smaller guys with big names. There are ppl in this thread saying he turned down a fight with Calzaghe, I believe that's possible, even though its more likely that Calzaghe ducked considering his resume.

Better title of your response.

Defending fighters I like.

Well it doesnt take a genius to figure out your from the *** capitol of the world. I didnt know the gays were in to boxing. Learn something new everyday :thumbsup
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oh, i'm so hurt. Getting called a *** by a ****** because I pissed on his half-assed argument.

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