OK, very tired, bland, mundane thread topic. More lists, of course. Still, I'm more interested in seeing your takes on each of these divisions than I am giving my own opinions. Based not on one factor, but several combined: accomplishments, resume, head-to-head, skillset (where applicable) what's your Top 5 look like for 135, 140, 147, 154, 160 all-time? Fighters can be rated in more than one division. :deal
sounds fun i'll start: 135: 1)Duran 2)Leonard 3)Gans 4)Armstrong 5)Whitaker 140: 1)Chavez 2)Locche 3)Ross 4)Pryor 5)Cervantes 147: 1)Robinson 2)Leonard 3)Armstrong 4)Gavilan 5)Ted Lewis 154: 1)Norris 2)McCallum 3)Hearns 4)Jackson 5)Wright 160: 1)Greb 2)Hagler 3)Robinson 4)Monzon 5)Ryan
My lists, I used to help with my top 100 earlier this year: Middleweight 5 Mickey Walker 4 Charley Burley 3 Stanley Ketchel 2 Ray Robinson 1 Carlos Monzon Junior Middleweights 10 Sandro Mazzinghi 9 Gianfranco Rosi 8 Wilfred Benitez 7 Ray Leonard 6 Emile Griffith 5 Terry Norris 4 Felix Trinidad 3 Winky Wright 2 Mike McCallum 1 Tommy Hearns Mentions: Denny Moyer, Nino Benvenuti, Ki Soo Kim, Koichi Wajima, Ayub Kalule, Maurice Hope, Roberto Duran, Julian Jackson, John David Jackson, Julio Cesar Vazquez, Harry Simon, Oscar de la Hoya and Shane Mosley Top 10 welters 1 Ray Robinson 2 Ray Leonard 3 Kid Gavilan 4 Emile Griffith 5 Henry Armstrong 6 Jose Napoles 7 Felix Trinidad 8 Oscar De La Hoya 9 Thomas Hearns 10 Carmen Bassillo Mentions to: Tommy Ryan, 'Mysterious' Billy Smith, 'The original' Joe Walcott, Mike Sullivan, Jack Britton, Ted 'Kid' Lewis, Mickey Walker, Jackie Fields, Barney Ross, Jim McLarnin, Fritzie Zivic, Red Cochrane, Benny 'Kid' Paret, Luis Rodriguez, Carlos Palomino, Pipino Cuevas, Roberto Duran, Don Curry, Marlon Starling, Pernell Whitaker and Shane Mosley Junior Welterweights: 10 Floyd Mayweather Jr 9 Ricky Hatton 8 Oscar de la Hoya 7 Meldrick Taylor 6 Julio Cesar Chavez 5 Nicolino Loche 4 Kostya Tszyu 3 Aaron Pryor 2 Wilfred Benitez 1 Antonio Cervantes Mentions: Pinkey Mitchell, Jackie Berg, Mushy Callahan, Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Carlos Ortiz, Duilio Loi, Saoul Mamby, Patrizio Oliva, Roger Mayweather, Buddy McGirt, Pernell Whitaker, Frankie Randall, Juan Martin Coggi, Vince Phillips, Zab Zab Judah and Sharmba Mitchell Lightweights 10 Sammy Angott 9 Julio Cesar Chavez 8 Bob Montgomery 7 Ike Williams 6 Battling Nelson 5 Joe Gans 4 Pernell Whitaker 3 Henry Armstrong 2 Benny Leonard 1 Roberto Duran Mentions: Jack McAuliffe, George Lavigne, Frank Erne, Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Lou Ambers, Beau Jack, Jimmy Carter, Carlos Ortiz, Ken Buchanan, Esteban DeJesus, Guts Ishimatsu (Ishimatsu Suzuki), Alexis Arguello, Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Hector Camacho Snr, Oscar de la Hoya, Shane Mosley, Steve Johnson, Jose Luis Castillo and Floyd Mayweather Jr
Always a challenge not to play favorites, especially when factoring in h2h which is obviously an extremely subjective measure. 135: 01. Roberto Duran 02. Benny Leonard 03. Pernell Whitaker 04. Joe Gans 05. Henry Armstrong 140: 01. Julio Cesar Chavez 02. Aaron Pryor 03. Antonio Cervantes 04. Niccolino Locche 05. Kostya Tszyu 147: 01. Ray Robinson 02. Ray Leonard 03. Thomas Hearns (little controversial) 04. Henry Armstrong 05. Jose Napoles 154: 01. Terry Norris 02. Thomas Hearns 03. Mike McCallum 04. Julian Jackson 05. Ayub Kalule 160: 01. Harry Greb 02. Marvin Hagler 03. Carlos Monzon 04. Ray Robinson 05. Stanley Ketchel
Top of my head Duran Leonard Gans Whittaker Armstrong Chavez Locche Pryor Cervantes Tszyu Robinson Gavilan Napoles Leonard Armstrong Hearns McCallum Norris Wright Jackson Monzon Hagler Greb Robinson Burley I've not made anything as a concrete pick there that's initial thoughts. I really wanted to put hurricane in the top 5 lmw lists but one destruction of emile doesn't cut it.
Lightweight; Leonard Gans Ortiz Duran Whitaker. Welterweight; Robinson Armstrong Napoles Leonard Gavilan Middleweight; Greb Monzon Hagler Robinson Fitzsimmons
