non judgmental just want to see what everyone’s list looks like modernists and classicalist alike. I’ll kick it off. Ali Sugar Ray Robinson Willie Pep Joe Luis Ezzard Charles SRL Mayweather Armstrong Marciano Duran Sure number 9 ruffled some feathers but this is my list and I’m Italian American lol.
1 SRR 2 Armstrong 3 Greb 4 Langford 5 Charles 6 Fitzsimmons 7 Gans 8 Louis 9 Ali 10 Benny Leonard My list is not complete but this is the way it seems to be shaping up
My opinion is constantly changing still TBH. I think the top 6 is Bob Fitzsimmons, Sam Langford, Harry Greb, Henry Armstrong, Sugar Ray Robinson and Ezzard Charles. It'd take a lot for me to put someone else in the top 6, they're all so strong it honestly feels wrong putting any of them out of the top 3. I'd maybe order them Bob FItzsimmons Ezzard Charles Harry Greb Henry Armstrong Sam Langford Sugar Ray Robinson There's a lot of others I could put in the next 4, I'll say Gans, Wilde, McFarland, and Burley for now, but not at all firmly, there's a load I could easilly swap them about with including Duran, Mayweather, Louis etc.
Cool, I stuck a few more in the Creedon thread which I found a while ago. I find it funny how someone who fought Bob Fitzsimmons, Kid McCoy and Joe Walcott ended with so little online about them.
Dunno, I can get more if you want. I don't think I can get anything new since someone researched it fairly extensively, so it just depends how many reports you want to see.
Well outside of work and family time I live breathe and talk sports...so some weeks I have more time to read sometimes less...but I am usually digging something up....right now my focus is the lighter weights, and the hardest place to find info/ratings/accurate results is pre 1920’s it seems
Shame on me but I know little of pre 1930 boxing...almost seems like a different sport (although you can see the difference between the 20s and prior as it was developing). I almost view it as different sport hence why I left off some rather big names. Just a preference thing for me although would like some good reading on that era.
Once I've finished the Walcott thread I plan on doing one on George Dixon. I actually wanted to look into Jimmy Barry, but it turned out to be pretty hard to find much of anything on him.
1- Gans 2- Kalambay 3- Duran 4- Armstrong 5- Robinson 6- Charles 7- Leonard (Benny) 8- Langford 9- Burley 10- Louis
1 Duran & Monzon 3 Wilfredo Gomez 4. Alexis Arguello. Antonio Cervantes 6 Eder Jofre 7 Napoles 8. Cuevas 9 Zarate 10 PedrozaSanchez
Could you explain why you put Gans at number 1, and Kalambay at number 2? (not saying you're wrong, just interested in your reasoning)
On a head to head basis, I see them outboxing any lightweight or middleweight. Plus Gans was long-time champion, and Kalambay schooled (yes, schooled) Mike McCallum (Mike, ****ing, McCallum; the best 154lber ever). They were like better Floyd Mayweathers, and fought the very best.