Your Top Ten Heavyweights Organised In Order Of Chin

1) Marciano (5)
2) Foreman (6)
3) Tyson (10)
4) Holyfield (9) As much will as chin.
5) Ali (1) More will to finish than chin alone
6) Holmes (4)
7) Frazier (8)
8) Louis (2)
9) Lewis (7)
10) Johnson (3) Hard to place, but stopped 5 times. Twice before peak, 3
times after peak (twice around the age of 50)

 

8's and () must be a code for smiles. I did not put those in on purpose.

 

You forgot Chuck Wepner also drop Ali in a title fight. A Amazing body shot that had Ali gapping for air.

 

This was a thread about chins, not a will to win column. I think some fighters take punches better than other fighters, but still stop trying under circumstances that fighters with less chins will try to push through.

Tyson's kos were because of accumulation. His will to win, and focus is what kept him from doing better. Tyson ate some monster right hands from Lewis, and kept walking forward until the end. I have always thought his will to win was similar to Hector Camacho's. At times, they just start going through the motions when the fight heats up.

Ali was hurt a few times in his career. It was his will to win that carried him past the fog. Same can be said of Holyfield.

Michael Moorer is a fighter with a weak chin, and will to win when hurt. If you could hit hard enough to hurt Moorer, and not hard enough to finish him, you could have one hell of a fight on hands. Ask Bert Cooper about that.

 

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1. Muhammad Ali [1]
2. George Foreman [3]
3. Larry Holmes [6]
4. Sonny Liston [2]
5. Mike Tyson [4]
6. Joe Frazier [7]
7. Jack Dempsey [9]
8. Joe Louis [5]
9. Lennox Lewis [10]
10. Jack Johnson [8]

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Somthing like:

1. Muhammad Ali [2]
2. Sonny Liston [10]
3. Larry Holmes [3]
4. Rocky Marciano [4]
5. Evander Holyfield [8]
6. Mike Tyson [9]
7. Joe Frazier [6]
8. Jack Dempsey [7]
9. Joe Louis [1]
10. Lennox Lewis [5]

 

Order of pure chin-

1. Jim Jeffries (4)
2. Muhamad Ali (2)
3. Sam Langford (9)
4. Rocky Marciano (6)
5. Sonny Liston (7)
6. Jack Dempsey (5)
7. Joe Frazier (10)
8. Joe Louis (1)
9. Jack Johnson (3)
10. Lenox Lewis (8)

Now if I were taking recuperative ability into acount-

1. Jim Jeffries (4)
2. Muhamad Ali (2)
3. Jack Dempsey (5)
4. Sam Langford (9)
5. Rocky Marciano (6)
6. Joe Louis (1)
7. Sonny Liston (7)
8. Joe Frazier (10)
9. Jack Johnson (3)
10. Lenox Lewis (8)

 

1- Oliver McCall
2- Rocky Marciano
3- Muhammed Ali
4- George Foreman
5- Mike Tyson
6- Larry Holmes
7- Evander Holyfield
8- Sonny Liston [ was never ko,d by ali ....just lay down ]
9- Joe Frazier
10- Riddick Bowe

 

Aye, but do you rate McCall among you top 10 "fighters" of all-time, though ...?

 

No......and i know that if he keeps fighting he will also get ko,d......
I rank McCall at number 25 in my ATG HW list.....:smoke

 

Interesting, the standard is how often one is knocked out.

Oh wait, when it's Marciano, the standard is no longer how often one is knocked out.

But then again, when comparing Marciano to Ali, the new standard is comparing how often one is floored in title fights.


Good work selecting the right stats to suit your arguments. With your fact-filtering skills you would've definitly made it Stalin's favorite if you were born in Russia and became a journalist.:good

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