Your top ten Jabbers!

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Joe Joyce can now be added to the list when people talk about jabbers after his jab leathered Dubois into submission
     
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  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler did it, you get countered if you do it all the time, not if you’re unpredictable with it, same with a lot of moves
     
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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I dont like it but that's just me
     
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  4. Dance84

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    Wladimir Klitschko . best jab of all time in my opinion.
     
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  5. Mike Cannon

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    Maurice Cullen
    Bob Foster
    Willie Pastrano
    Henry Cooper
    Colin Jones
     
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  6. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I watched some of that video showing Hagler leaping as he jabbed, I don't think he did it often and from memory it looked like when the other guy was already hurt or retreating. I'm with you, leaving your feet in boxing is rarely a good idea and it leaves the fighter open to a hard counter. Plus, I don't think that jumping and jabbing would have any advantage over pushing with the rear foot and sliding the front foot forward.
     
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  7. McGrain

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    The heavyweight bias in this thread is absurd. Slower, less co-ordinated heavyweights have the best jabs in history...why would people see it that way?

    I will say this is the toughest task in lists though. What makes the jab of Ricardo Lopez better than that of Marvin Hagler or vice-versa is beyond me for sure. I think it's actually easier to do a top ten one-two.
     
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  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    What you you describe as his best jabbing performances? Against what jabbers was his GOAT jab proven against?
     
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  9. Dance84

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    Eye test wise thats all just the best I've seen.
     
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  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    For me it's not HW bias. I dont even start any HW threads. Its just the simple fact that no one had a better jab than Holmes IMO and it's not even close
     
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  11. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    A lot of the YouTube boxing gurus do that; they take something, misunderstand the context, overcomplicate it with circular verbiage, then make up a word or a name for what they 'discovered'.
    If you make up your own language, nobody else can understand it, so your explanation makes you look very knowledgeable to many people.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    In real terms, you're right. If you put Holmes in a jabbing match with anyone, they'll probably lose, or at least have their work cut out for them. But I don't like to say that it's so clearly better than the jab of Liston or Louis or whomever that that is absolutely settled. So I'd say that Holmes is a reasonable pick for number one at heavyweight and I wouldn't argue with that. As to someone telling me it's inarguably better than Harada's or Robinson's or Conteh, Monzon, Buchanan or Pedroza...no. That would take some proving.

    Overall though I'm not talking about selecting Holmes at number one which I think is reasonable, it's more that some of these lists have seven out of ten slots filled by heavies.

    That's crazy.
     
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  13. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You nailed it. "overcomplicate" is a good word for it! I guess you wouldn't get a lot of Youtube hits if you just told people, "if you move one foot, move the other one the same distance, keep your elbows in, chin down, etc. People want some "secret move" that nobody knows about. Don't think that is out there, people need to just master the fundamentals and the rest will take care of itself.
     
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  14. mcvey

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    Cullen is a good shout,never thought of Jones as being much of a jabber.
     
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  15. Mike Cannon

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    He didn't throw it a awful lot, but when he did their was a lot of power , would knock opponents head back visibly.
     
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