We're all fair game. And it was pretty funny. I'm just an ornery ******* when I'm hungover. Back on the wagon so expect nothing but even-tempered, courteous responses.
I'm surprised to see Freddie Steele in so many lists. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve. I do think Fred Apostoli was superior in that era, and he's getting a bit overlooked. Likewise, Dick Tiger seems to get a lot more love than Joey Giardello. I think they're impossible to separate.
To keep things in the spirit of the thread. I'll lump a list together. Outside of HWs, lists feel far more like throwing names around though. Harder to differentiate in some ways with a lack of footage as well. Especially MW. Not the division it once was, but historically quite possibly the greatest depth. 1. Harry Greb 2. Carlos Monzon 3. Marvin Hagler 4. SRR 5. Stanley Ketchel 6. Mickey Walker 7. Charley Burley 8. Bernard Hopkins 9. Holman Williams 10. Marcel Cerdan I put Cerdan at ten because I get the sense he's not getting the proper credit. He beat Zale, Turpin, and outpointed Williams he is on most peoples lists it seems. Honorable mentions: Steele, Tiger, LaMotta, Fitzimmons.
Despite the recent attempts at de-constructing him, the number one middleweight champ of all time was Carlos Monzon, followed by Marvin Hagler, Harry Greb, SRR, and the rest you can sort out..so many other greats, but I "cahn't be arsed" (as some of my fine British friends might say) to compose a list.