Your Top Twenty Welters?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Seeing some including Fitzie Zivic in their twenty I'm curious as to which names make posters lists.Here is a rough draft of mine in no order . Champions only.
    McLarnin
    Britton
    Lewis
    Robinson
    Napoles
    Griffith
    Gavilan
    Walker
    DeLaHoya
    Ross
    Armstrong
    Whitaker
    Mayweather
    Pacquiano
    Trinidad
    Mosley
    Leonard
    Hearns
    Duran
    Rodriguez
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    20 - Roberto Duran
    19 - Felix Trinidad
    18 - Luis Manuel Rodriguez
    17 - Curtis Cokes
    16 - Jimmy McLarnin
    15 - Barney Ross
    14 - Mickey Walker
    13 - Jackie Fields
    12 - Joe Walcott
    11 - Tommy Ryan
    10 - Ted Kid Lewis
    09 - Floyd Mayweather
    08 - Tommy Hearns
    07 - Kid Gavilan
    06 - Henry Armstrong
    05 - Emile Griffith
    04 - Jose Napoles
    03 - Jack Britton
    02 - Ray Leonard
    01 - Sugar Ray
     
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  3. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here comes a Sugar Ray Leonard fan to make sure everything is on the level here
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Christ I left Walcott out!
     
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I can do a top ten very confidently. The next ten I'll have to be a bit less confident on.

    Just as a preface I rank on one thing and one thing only: winnability. I also only rank a fighter in one division, the one I think which best represents them as a fighting machine.

    My confident top ten:

    Ray Robinson
    Ray Leonard
    Thomas Hearns
    Jose Napoles
    Floyd Mayweather
    Charley Burley
    Kid Gavilan
    Emile Griffith
    Luis Manuel Rodriguez
    Oscar De La Hoya

    My not so confident next ten (reverse chronological order):

    Forrest
    Trinidad
    Curry
    Palomino
    Cuevas
    Honeyghan
    Basilio
    McClarnin
    Zivic
    Walker

    This has made me rethink some things. I can't believe I don't have McClarnin, Tito or Walker in my top 100 fighters. Something has to change there.

    But that's my list as of now. Might change over the next day or so whilst I rethink some things.
     
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    "Champions only."
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Then drop Burley and replace him with Starling.

    I must say, this thread, for some reason, has reignited my passion a bit with boxing.

    Just done a list of about 30 great fighters I haven't currently ranked. That's gonna be some boxing to watch over the next few weeks.

    So thanks.
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Buddy McGirt might have beaten Honeyghan and Starling proved he had a low ring IQ plus an awful corner, Mickey Duff to Lloyd near the end of his awful display v Starling missing 75% of his non-stop punches: 'Are you tired Lloyd'!
     
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Basilio was far better than Honeyghan, he managed to beat Robi at middle and Lloyd would have been destroyed by Robi at welter,plus he faced Gavilan who would have also toyed with Lloyd.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Buddy would beat Lloyd imo.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    They weren't in order
     
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    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Palomino but no Duran ?
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    I have Duran at LW
     
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  14. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    My top 20:

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Sugar Ray Leonard
    3. Jose Napoles
    4. Henry Armstrong
    5. Kid Gavilan
    6. Emile Griffith
    7. Mickey Walker
    8. Jack Britton
    9. Barbados Joe Walcott
    10. Barney Ross
    11. Thomas Hearns
    12. Ted Kid Lewis
    13. Luis Rodriguez
    14. Carmen Basilio
    15. Jimmy McLarnin
    16. Curtis Cokes
    17. Roberto Duran
    18. Felix Trinidad
    19. Tommy Ryan
    20. Pernell Whitaker

    1-10 I'm pretty happy with - although I came very close to putting Napoles at no.2 - but 11-20 I could probably tweak more.
     
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  15. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like that list.
     
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