Your Top5 Heavy Contenders FromThe 50's?

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  1. mcvey

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    Who are your choices for the top five heavyweight contenders of the 1950's, leaving out Marciano,Walcott,Charles & Louis?
    In no order, I'm going with the following. Only wins in that decade count.
    Bob Baker
    Wins over
    Payne
    Peaks x2
    Cestac
    Agramonte x2
    Gilliam x4
    Bivins
    Valdes x2
    Baksi
    Wallace x2
    Slade
    Layne x 3
    Mederos
    Holman
    Chuvalo
    Richardson


    Harold Johnson
    Wins over
    King
    Peaks
    Bethea
    Mederos
    Slade
    Henry
    Valdes
    Charles
    Satterfield x2

    Clarence Henry
    wins over
    Holman
    Payne
    Thompson
    Dunlap
    Bivins
    Agramonte x2
    Bakerx2
    Davidson

    Nino Valdes
    Wins over
    London
    McMurtry
    Richardson
    Cokkell
    Neuhaus
    Sys
    Holman
    Summerlin
    Erskine
    Jackson
    Charles
    Miteff
    DeJohnx2
    Agramonte

    Archie Moore
    Wins over
    Bivins
    Baker x2
    Cestac x2
    Dunlap x 2
    Davidson
    Slade
    Henry
    Valdes x2
    Rischer
    Besmanoff x2
    King x2
    Norkus
    * I didnt include Archie's wins over Johnson as they were at LHvy ,he didn't really need them imo.

    Do you agree/disagree?
     
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  2. Gazelle Punch

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    Idk goes by career total as a whole or when at peak best who was best are two different animals even if most good wins are 50s or 60s or 40s we still know whom the better fighter is.
    1. Archie
    2.Harold Johnson
    3. Zora Folley
    4. Eddie Machen
    5. Rex Layne (and yes it was a tough one between him and Nino)...Rex has the best win of all of them and that’s a win over Walcott as well as Satterfield and Charles if it’s career as a whole Laynes second act of his career was dreadful which lowered his standing.
    I’m assuming in this thread to also leave off Liston Patterson Ingo (champs).
     
  3. Gazelle Punch

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    I would like to add the stark differences between these men and the ones that fight today. They may not have had the size cough steroids cough but at the least they had the balls to fight each other and fight each other often. I doubt any contender in the last ten years has those kind of resumes. And those are just there wins
     
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  4. Webbiano

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    Elmer Rays quantity might not be as good as some of the names mentioned, but down to sheer quality I think he makes the list
     
  5. Mendoza

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    Moore is first.

    Then the rest is close. Henry at his best, which did not last long could be #2 Rocky pretty much fought the best of his times. Vales would have been nice, but he wasn't the #1 contender for a long enough time to be considered a duck.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

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    Liston. He wasn't champ until 62, meaning he was a contender in 50s.

    He mops the floor with everybody named in this thread.
     
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  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    In terms of h2h ability or resume?

    Either way #1 is Archie Moore. Might take Machen next, then Layne, then Henry, then Folley.
     
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  8. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    He retired in 49 sadly
     
  9. Gazelle Punch

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    I assumed he meant to leave off Liston, Ingo, Patterson among wirh Marciano Charles Walcott and Louis...otherwise a much different list
     
  10. scartissue

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    I went with Moore, Baker, Valdes, Folley and Machen in no apparent order.
     
  11. Webbiano

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    holy smokes my bad, my mind went off on a tangent and cocked that one up lol
     
  12. choklab

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    except Liston didn’t score any key top ten wins until 1960.

    he was certainly an outstanding and logical contender by 1961.Harris, Foley and Machen were what really established him.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    Williams and Valdes not good enough for you?
     
  14. choklab

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    No. Valdes was a dead man walking. I am surprised how highly thought of he was because he actually lost a lot more fights than many of the other best contenders of that decade. 14 times he lost while he was ranked.

    And don’t get me started again on Williams. He’s more famous for being shot by a policeman than anything he actually did in a ring before being knocked out by Liston.
     
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  15. mcvey

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    This isn't about who may or may not have ducked who ,it's about which five heavyweights posted the best wins during the 10years decade that constitutes the 1950's
     
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