I had it about 8-4, maybe 7-5 in favor of Ike. Needless to say I'm completely befuddled at the responses in this thread. It's always been known as a great fight, but I never thought it was controversial at all. Ike simply outworked him throughout the whole fight, easily winning the early rounds, Tua coming on strong in the mid to late rounds, though he never really gained any edges the way Ike did in the early rounds. I thought it was a close, very competitive fight, but very clear.
I think Ike won the battle, but lost the war. He really became more unstable to the point where I think he might've gotten brain damage from it and his erratic behavior became worse after it. It might be a coincidence, but taking those kinds of shots from Tua for 12 rounds couldn't have helped matters.
The first time I watched the fight I gave it to Ibeabuchi, I've watched it perhaps 5 times since and scored it for Tua every other time. Quite close and it's hard to separate them on the number of quality punches landed overall but Tua seemed to be getting stronger and Ibeabuchi weaker as the fight progressed.
Yes, i think that (among others) drove Ibeabuchi really over the edge to insanity, hearing demons, carrying big knifes to HBO negotiation dinners and what not. Needless to say though, Tua left part of his ability in the ring as well.
I think more then physical damage Tua was emotionally drained. He was never the most motivated, and coming up he was pegged as the second coming of Tyson in some circles. When his 0 went, I think his less then stellar dedication to the game took a nose dive too.
It was a brutal fight but I did have Tua 7 - 5 both live and later when I taped it off Classic ... the shame is that Tua was never the same again ... never in the same shape or had the same drive ...
This was a great match up between two hard hitters facing each other in their primes, and on of their best nights. I scored it a 6-5-1 for Ike. While Tua did close strong, I think Ike won too many of the early rounds by a cleaner margin. I think 7-5 for either fighter is possible without either man being robbed.
Agreed. As I said before, it's a shame both were never the same afterwards. Hate to see that after a great fight.