Your unpopular boxing opinions

I'm glad I was around to see him pull it off. It was amazing to witness both in and out of the ring.
As far as his character goes. During the Bowe/Golota riots (a truly ugly scene) I would say he showed some real decency in stopping some guys from getting in the ring and making matters even worse. I don't think younger George would have given a ****.

 

I scored it 145-141 Duran last time out. I can see variation in a few rounds but I'd have to really be focussing on Leonard and ignoring Duran to score it in SRL's favour, I think. After 12 rounds, Duran was well ahead and if you have the opinion that Leonard won the last 3, which is how I had it, then he closed the gap but not quite enough. Duran clearly felt he had it in the bag which is why he was showboating in the final round.

I think the judges (leaving aside the 10-rounds-even guy) got this one right. Close and competitive but clear win for Duran. No controversy to this one.

 

Don't know what judges had it but even in the 15th As Duran was starting his victory party he was still outboxing Leonard.

Overall if you judge fights and don't score even rounds on a regular basis then your not a good judge. Your scorecards will reflect it

 

Yeah i don't find it controversial at all. I'm just interested that some knowledgeable posters have it close.

 

I had Duran up by 7- competitive, but as definitive a decision as one could achieve against a fellow great. The second fight was more hotly contested from this scorer's standpoint before Duran inexplicably quit.

 

It could be Leonard's stature now as one of the elite and a Superstar. Also the 20/20 hindsight that the official judges had it razor close.
Or their American .

 

Well, even rounds happen, of course. But there were not in my view 10 rounds that were so close as to be scored even. I think that was the card that was called 'a monument to indecision'. Scoring some even rounds in a fight is inevitable but scoring 10 even in a 15 round fight is poor judging imo.

 

Agreed. There are judges that never seem call them even though. That is where the source of many funky decisions come from.

 

My gut feeling is he threw it to regain it, maybe wrong but stranger things have happened in boxing!

 

While I see your point there was a fight a few years ago that I scored 7 rounds even in a 12 rounder. Cannot remember which fight but it was a title fight and was that close imo.

This fight was a one off but still...

I dislike it when people say you should pick a winner of a drawn round as it shows indecision, some rounds are just even and would be an injustice to a fighter who loses just because a scorer feels bullied or guilt tripped into making a call they don't agree with. I believe the draw is maligned more in the USA, in team sports they like to have overtime to settle games whereas most other countries seem to be more accomodating to an even game.

That being said most draws are robberies that a hometown or mainstream star fighter lost.

 

The official judges usually turn in better scores than the Boxing24 peanut gallery.

 

Rolling my eyes a bit with that last comment. You want homerism? Go to Puerto Rico or Germany before the catch-all BS about Americans. Duran's biggest supporters here are American after all.

 

Oh yeah, it's possible. Either through a dearth of notable action (more usual) or an unrelenting slugfest (unusual) rounds can legitimately be even. In the example I used, I don't think that was the case. I think if rounds were considered even unless one fighter had a distinct advantage to call it 10-9 that would be a possibility. But you could also end up with the old Argentine system where fighters have a lot of draws on their records because one fighter wasn't considered to have done enough to win the fight outright.

No scoring system is perfect, I suppose.