Your unpopular boxing opinions

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Marquez's counter-punching prowess has become somewhat overrated.
     
  2. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets see...

    1.De La Hoya easily outboxed Tito and it wasn't even close.
    2.Sweet Pea did enough to beat Oscar.
    3.Had they not rushed Vargas into so many tough fights back to back he would have had a greater career.
    4. If Breland had stayed with Steward his career would have been very different.
    5.Camacho in his prime outboxes Chavez EASILY.
    6_.Mccallum priced himself out of fights with the FAB 4.
    7. Leonard did more then enough to beat Hagler.
    8. Virgil Hill had he fought Moorer at Lightheavy survives some scary moments and gains a decision.
    9. Heorl Graham was avoided early in his career.
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  3. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh and in his prime Barrera beats Marquez.
     
  4. Dawuud GG

    Dawuud GG Member banned Full Member

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    Ali is overrated

    Wladimir klitschko is the longest reigning heavyweight champion

    if he came along a decade earlier or a decade later Holmes wouldn’t be considered an ATG

    vitali Klitschko defeats EVERY champion of the 20th century

    Eubanks and benn were overrated bums

    Calzaghe beats RJJ and b-hop in their primes
     
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  5. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Fab 4 were superstars before McCallum was even established as a great fighter. Duran chose Hearns over McCallum obviously because of the superstar matchup and money. Aaron Pryor is the guy who priced himself out of fights.
     
  6. Wvboxer

    Wvboxer Active Member Full Member

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    The Klitschkos, Lennox Lewis, & even current fighters like Fury would beat most great heavyweights of the past. Just too big and too smart. They’re not the warriors Joe Frazier was but they know how to use their size to win.
     
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  7. Yaiyr Alexander

    Yaiyr Alexander Member banned Full Member

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    Depends how far in the past. I agree with you until we reach the 60s when boxers started becoming very defensively sound and were around 200-220 pounds. Usyk, holyfield, fraizer and other fighters showed with enough skill a cruiserweight can fight off a superheavyweight and even school them
     
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    After rewatching the fight recently Hagler/Leonard was a terrible nite for the sport of boxing. I don't know if the judges were bought off perhaps one judge was but the referee was certainly in Leonard's pocket. Ray broke every rule in the book about 3 times except biting. Not once point deducted even blatant fouls.
    I used to think Hagler fought a dumb fight and was shopworn from so many fights and title defenses. Anyone would look bad if an opponent as good as Leonard were allowed to hit on the break repeatedly, hit after the bell repeatedly, hold and hit repeatedly, hit low repeatedly. Ray couldn't help himself after it got good to him...he glanced at Steele then wound up a Bolo RingCenter hit the Middleweight Champion right in the nuts. Richard Steele just kept warning him over and over. The man committed a variety of fouls.
    Even one point deduction would have changed the outcome and probably discouraged Leonard from continuing his foul fest. Strange night because of SRL star power and Hagler being such an imposing figure that he was impervious to pain? IDK.
    RL performance? It was a show...much of it was ****.
     
  9. Shahpoor Saiq

    Shahpoor Saiq Member Full Member

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    Mike Tyson is not a top 20 heavyweight
     
  10. UltimateDestroyer

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    That De la Hoya beat Whitaker comfortably.

    Fury and the rest of the so called 'super heavyweights' are champions only because their bulk has filled the skill vacuum at heavyweight.

    Mayweather robbed himself out of a great career with his stipulation nonsense.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    PFP lists should be weighted more heavily for 126-175 because the talent pool thins out in the big and small divisions, with heavyweight as a possible exception.

    Doing all time lists is pointless because there are too many variables at play (reffing, scoring, training, fight schedules, am experience, PEDs/drug testing, media, world inclusion, weigh in rules, gloves, racial discrimination, etc.).
     
  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    At the time of the stoppage, Julio Cesar Chavez was a mere 2-3 points off the pace when he dropped Meldrick Taylor in the 12th of their legendary fight in 1990.

    The general consensus is that the American was way ahead on the scorecards as a result of his incredible output, but I thought JCC edged round 2 and began to land the harder, more telling blows by round 9. I couldn't split either man in round 3 either, but conceivably this could have been a Taylor round. In any case, I thought a large gap had been closed somewhat through the championship rounds. Taylor was labouring.
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Post the 20
     
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  14. Shahpoor Saiq

    Shahpoor Saiq Member Full Member

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    im jk lol
     
  15. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    - Timothy Bradley would have beat Floyd Mayweather
    - Mayweather should have been disqualified against Zab Judah (his uncle came in the ring which should have been an automatic disqualification).
    - Floyd Mayweather is a better technical boxer than Ali
    - Ken Norton is not an ATG (great fighter not ATG)