Your unpopular boxing opinions

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, Mar 8, 2019.


  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just another thing to add about this: At that time I think it was pretty much only McCallum who saw anything wrong with Hearns coming back to 154 after almost two years and defending against Medal instead of unifying against McCallum before relinquishing his title, but today I think it would have stirred controversy.

    Can't think fans would be happy with someone considered to be the man in a division coming back to it after so long without meeting the best available and then leaving it for good. Especially if the best available was an old stable mate who had been his match in sparring.

    I think forums and social media would be awash with eye witness accounts of their sparring and the general feel would be that Hearns ducked him. And If there weren't any politics preventing this fight, which I've never heard, I have a bit of hard time seeing any fundamental difference between this and Canelo/Benavidez. Well, Canelo stayed at 168, but the accusations against him would hardly be any less if he came back down after Bivol to make a softer defence and then moved back up again.
     
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  2. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I always thought Buster cut it pretty close. He (and Tunney in Dempsey 2) looked aware, and I would guess he beats a normal 10 count. But if I was in his corner, I definitely would not be happy with him taking so long.

    Yeah you don’t want to get up too quickly like Zab against Kostya, but you also don’t want to cut it too close either. I remember one of the Ruelas brothers lost an early fight due to losing track of the count.

    I’d want the fighter to take his time, and get up at around 6 or 7. Not at 9.
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quarry seemed to lose the count against Chuvalo as well.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I have plenty, but they come and go.

    Right now it's that prime Tyson is probably the third best HW whos ever existed.
     
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  5. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Coming back to this thread,I'll say one thing: Louis appeared better in the Ezzard fight than what most made him to be,sure his legs are gone and he's starting to look like a plodding rusty giant,but he did manage to use his size,jab and swell Ezzard,and cover some of his punches,I felt like Louis wasn't truly gone,he still had that fraction of the champ in him.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Kostya Tszyu has one of the most overrated resumes in boxing. Laurent Boudouani almost has a better resume.
     
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  7. Paul McB

    Paul McB Member Full Member

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    Judges having different scorecards is a feature, not a bug. They sit on different sides of the ring to each other so literally have a different view of the action. If there’s a lot of close quarters action happening in a corner, it might be very difficult to see what’s actually happening depending on where you’re sitting.

    I also think that records are more of a tool to promote a fighter in the ratings and on fight cards than an actual useful metric of their career overall. If I have spend the first chunk of my career racking up easy wins to get a following and media coverage, whether it’s 10 or 20 fights, do those wins have any real meaning in retrospect?
     
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  8. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Boudouani didn`t have a prime Judah on his record.
     
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Zoo didn’t have Vazquez and Guillermo Jones.
     
  10. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis looked pretty good there, the problem was, his reflexes were shot and Charles was beating him to the punch almost every time.
     
  11. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Zab was better than them, certainly more dangerous and faster.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I don't really think you know much about Guillermo Jones.
     
  13. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Seriously? Who the hell did he beat? Zab was quick as hell in his prime.
     
  14. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    What the hell was a 6`4 cruiser dong fighting at light middle? That`s taking the terrm weight bully to new levels.
     
  15. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    In October 2013, Jones was stripped of his title for failing a drug test for his WBA unification fight with Lebedev, with Lebedev being reinstated as full champion. A rematch between Lebedev and Jones has concordantly been ordered by the WBA. Jones again tested positive, and was stripped of the title, however recent allegations of Russian tampering with drug testing has put this finding in doubt. In December 2013, Jones was reinstated by the WBA as Champion in Recess.