You're managing any ATG in an imagined ATG stacked division...

if i had marciano i wouldnt let him be in the same postcode as foreman..
i wouldnt let holmes anywhere near dempsey either..

 

Roy Jones Jnr at MW ...


Avoid Marvin Hagler and Gerald Mclellan . I think that these two's furious assaults could unsettle Roy and see him retreat into a defensive shell . Hagler winning a wide points decision and i really do think that if he would have met the mighty G-Man he could be up against his nemesis .Fully aware that Mclellan isn't regarded as an all time great but i'm in the minority of thinking he was on his way .

No one could complain much cos i've lined up..

January - Sugar Ray Leonard ( similar fighter but Roy has the size and power advantages )

June - Roberto Duran ( MW was never his best weight , Roy outboxes him )

Dec - Bernard Hopkins ( Even a prime Hopkins would struggle with Roy's speed )

 

I think Liston would be the one I woundn't fancy at all, unless I happened to train Ali. :yep

 

I'd favor Jones to beat McClellan easily.

 

most people would i know. i'm of a different opinion myself .i reckon mclellan would have been a nightmare for him.

 

McClellan was an impressive figure..He had a mean style and a mean way about him. I can see why people talk about him the way they do.

I have heard others say he could beat many of the best middleweights ever but I do often wonder why.

Just wondering why you think he would be a nightmare for Roy and what fights are you basing that on?

I cant really see it to be honest...He beat an overrated and more or less finished Mugabi...The way he dispatched with Jackson was impressive but you could argue Julian was on the way out and his chin was always a liability of his.
Neither these guys are comparable to Jones in style or ability.

Would you pick Gerald over guys like Monzon, Hagler, Robinson, Tiger, Benvenuti, Barkley? Just curious to know...he has always struck me an interesting case McClellan..he was a very good fighter but a lot of people think he was so much more then that for reasons I cant see.

 

I don't think we saw the best of mclellan for a start, he was cut down before he had a chance to establish himself at a weight his body would fit into more. The older guys you mention , obviously hagler & robinson would probably have too much for him, barkley i don't know what the fuss is about and i have to admit to not knowing much, or seeing much footage of, including monzon, unforgiveably.
as far as a match up with jones goes, is there a fighter he fought in his prime of otherwise with so much raw power and aggression as a mclellan or hagler ? i don't think so . his best wins are against toney and hopkins who are both much more on the counter puncher side, who jones, being a very clever fighter could work out. would he have cracked under a relentless assault against the likes of hagler who would have stalked him round the ring or mclellan with his smash and grab ruthless style.
i understand why i could get ridiculed for giving gerald a chance against jones but i think that he would have become a very special fighter and a fight against jones would have been very close.

 

One of those names clearly doesn't belong there.

 

Yeah I know that but I thought I would start at the best and work downwards in H2H ability (in my opinion anyway) just to see how stonerose thought he would go..Big leap at the end I know..I actually just chucked Iran in there because I was rushing the post.

 

Name a fighter Jones has fought who is comparable in terms of style and aggression to Gerald Mclellan ?

 

Yeah fair enough...I just see it more the other way Gerald never fought a guy like Roy..I think his middleweight opposition complemented his style, Roy would not.

 

True. whatever peoples view on how easy it would have been for Roy everyone would have to agree it would have been some fight .

so are people saying a career in boxing management is not a smart move for me ?

 

Um..maybe someone like Sosa..Even the version of Hopkins that Jones fought in terms of physical size and his more aggressive approach back then could have some comparisons..thats a bit of a stretch though.